Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:39 am

About the concept of "whiteness" - Europeans NEVER considered themselves all part of the same 'race', in the first place. You were German, or Norse, or Roman, etc. There was never a 'white' until there was a 'black', which probably came about in the 1950s.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by DrYouth » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:20 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:About the concept of "whiteness" - Europeans NEVER considered themselves all part of the same 'race', in the first place. You were German, or Norse, or Roman, etc. There was never a 'white' until there was a 'black', which probably came about in the 1950s.
The forefathers of the "West" saw themselves as superior to the savages all along.

It's just that savages shifted from Non-Romans, to Non-Christians, to Non-White along the way.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:27 am

StCapps wrote:I did not argue that the white race doesn't exist.
/shrugs

You are arguing against points that no one made and none of the points you bring up support your opinion. Your post sucks, quit fronting like it's some mic drop.

You didn't even read the post. It had nothing to do with your arguing against the existence if our race, but your arguing against the fact that European immigrants were integrated under white identity.

You choose to ignore all the obvious facts that directly refute your assertion that this was some multicultural fuckfest. We tried to exterminate the nonwhite original inhabitants of this land. We locked them down on reservations. We enslaved the black Africans and treated them as subhumans. We enacted miscegenation laws that explicitly referred to the white race and sought to preserve it from mixing with the other races. We segregated nonwhites and we blocked them from positions of power and even the best jobs. The SJWs are not wrong when they assert America was founded on white supremacy. You have to be a huge fucking idiot to deny that.

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:We segregated nonwhites and we blocked them from positions of power and even the best jobs.
So what? Jim Crow doesn't prove your point and neither do miscegenation laws. White identity was not what allowed Europeans to integrate so quickly in America, it's not the building block of society because of a few laws you cherry pick. You jump to silly conclusions based on your confirmation bias, you are the only one who thinks the points you made in that post prove anything you've been arguing.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:42 am

You have to be a huge fucking idiot not to agree with the SJW cohort?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:44 am

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:We segregated nonwhites and we blocked them from positions of power and even the best jobs.
So what? Jim Crow doesn't prove your point.

You sat there and argued that European immigrants were not integrated here under the auspices of a wider white identity. I can show you where white identity was written into the fucking law, capps. Nonwhites were exterminated, enslaved, or locked into reservations. They were denied employment or even the ability to use the same door as whites.

And yet you want to pretend like this was some kind of multicultural nation back then? Fucking hell, man. You got so retarded in the past few years.

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by K@th » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:48 am

2017 - white supremacists arguing that the mass murder of native people's and the enslavement of Africans was not such a bad thing for whitey. :roll: Can we export all the white supremacists to their own Lilly white land? I hear the North Pole is at least 80% white, so that may be a good spot.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:48 am

Kath wrote:2017 - white supremacists arguing that the mass murder of native people's and the enslavement of Africans was not such a bad thing for whitey. :roll: Can we export all the white supremacists to their own Lilly white land? I hear the North Pole is at least 80% white, so that may be a good spot.

Oh fuck yourself, lyin' Kath.

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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:You sat there and argued that European immigrants were not integrated here under the auspices of a wider white identity. I can show you where white identity was written into the fucking law, capps. Nonwhites were exterminated, enslaved, or locked into reservations. They were denied employment or even the ability to use the same door as whites.
A few laws don't mean that all white people saw themselves as white as opposed to the ethnic background they came from, you are arguing that white identity is more important to whites than their ethnic identity in America, and that is patently false. Teddy Roosevelt can rail against hyphenated Americans all he wants, it's still a thing, your melting pot is a myth.
Speaker to Animals wrote:And yet you want to pretend like this was some kind of multicultural nation back then? Fucking hell, man. You got so retarded in the past few years.
It was a multi-ethnic empire, just because the largest ethnicities were white ethnicities, doesn't mean it isn't multi-ethnic. There is more than one white ethnicity fucktard.

You prefer a Multi-Ethnic Empire, as long as it is a Multi-Ethnic-White Empire, all while you rail against any other kind of Multi-Ethnic Empire as the next Austro-Hungary.
You have not thought things through.
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Re: Maybe it's not Capitalism or Liberalism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:58 am

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You sat there and argued that European immigrants were not integrated here under the auspices of a wider white identity. I can show you where white identity was written into the fucking law, capps. Nonwhites were exterminated, enslaved, or locked into reservations. They were denied employment or even the ability to use the same door as whites.
A few laws don't mean that all white people saw themselves as white as opposed to the ethnic background they came from, you are arguing that white identity is more important to whites than their ethnic identity in America, and that is patently false. Teddy Roosevelt can rail against hyphenated Americans all he wants, it's still a thing, your melting pot is a myth.
Speaker to Animals wrote:And yet you want to pretend like this was some kind of multicultural nation back then? Fucking hell, man. You got so retarded in the past few years.
It was a multi-ethnic empire, just because the largest ethnicities were white ethnicities, doesn't mean it isn't multi-ethnic. There is more than one white ethnicity fucktard, you prefer a Multi-Ethnic Empire, as long as it is a Multi-Ethnic-White Empire, clown show.

A few laws!?

Dude, we genocided most of the inhabitants of North America and then removed by force the survivors to reservations where they were killed if they wandered off in large numbers. We enslaved Africans and the Supreme Court literally ruled that they were nothing more than talking farm animals. We wrote laws that explicitly set the prerogatives of whites as the default interest of the American government and we enacted other laws that imposed tough penalties for whites having sexual intercourse outside of our own race (while no such laws existed for the other races). For most of the 19th and 20th centuries, our immigration policy established quotas that selected European peoples while greatly reducing the non-Europeans who could come here. The Chinese were an exception because we wanted the closest thing to slaves we could get after the republicans outlawed slavery with a constitutional amendment. But those guys weren't allowed to live outside of their little Chinatown communities and they sure as shit weren't allowed to do anything but manual labor building railroads.

Americans invented white supremacy, you fucking clown. It was a horrible place to live if you were nonwhite. This is literally how we integrated Europeans into a single ethnic identity we called American all the way up until the middle of the twentieth century.
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