US Voting Qualifications Thread

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:02 pm

I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
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Post by Penner » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:03 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
WTF is wrong with you?
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:11 pm

Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
WTF is wrong with you?
You said something that made me think that. Some comment about seeing all the family pictures with all the kids making you miss having little ones around. I thought it meant your kids grew up.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:22 pm

We're going to need to see pics to straighten this out.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:32 pm

Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
WTF is wrong with you?
So...so many things :lol:
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Post by Ex-California » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
California wrote:
Penner wrote:
I don't own land, yet, nor have any children, yet, BUT I do pay taxes. Why is it that landowners and/or parents so special enough to fuck over a good percentage of people for no other reason than having different circumstances in life than you?
You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.
It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.

If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:00 pm

California wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
California wrote: You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.
It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.

If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.
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Post by Ex-California » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:05 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
California wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.

If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.
No. That's not the point.

People need to be paying into the system if they want to participate in the system
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:20 pm

California wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
California wrote: You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.
It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.

If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
I understand.

If walmart is the largest employer in a small town, and in many cases it is, then all of those people are paying income taxes. If meth addiction is also prevalent in that small town, which in many cases it is, and if a large number of the people in that small town also receive welfare, which in many cases they do, I don't think the simple bullet point about them paying income taxes is enough to erase all other issues.

I agree with speaker that simply owning property alone isn't the only thing to look at, but in a local city council meeting, or in a municipal vote on a bill or tax, I wouldn't put the walmart employees on even footing with the property owners and local business owners.

I think most people understand why we don't let children drive corvettes on the freeway, and why we don't let adults who get too many DUIs have their license back. Different states pick different heights to place those bars, but they all agree those lines need to be defined.

Getting behind the wheel of a city, state, or nation is just as legitimate an issue to restrict as is driving a vehicle. And I'm not opposed to breaking up certain types of votes for different voters in the same way that we break up driving certain types of vehicles for different drivers.

Just because you can drive a car doesn't mean you are qualified to drive a big rig.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:35 pm

California wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
California wrote: I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.
No. That's not the point.

People need to be paying into the system if they want to participate in the system
Every time you purchase anything, and pay a tax, you are paying into the system.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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