What would America look like if it was truly the Land of the Free?

[brewster]

Cultural divide?

Uh oh. I've spilled the beans. Have you learned the truth about Santa and the tooth fairy yet?

[The Conservative]

Cultural divide?

Uh oh. I've spilled the beans. Have you learned the truth about Santa and the tooth fairy yet?

No I want your definition, because to me it sounds like it's in your head.

[brewster]

Cultural divide?

Uh oh. I've spilled the beans. Have you learned the truth about Santa and the tooth fairy yet?

No I want your definition, because to me it sounds like it's in your head.

Umm, ex: you and StA despise urban people and their culture. Is that not a divide?

[Fife]

And you think "culture" anywhere <100K sardines is "non-existent."

[TheReal_ND]

I FUCKING LOVE ALL THIS VIBRANT CUTLURE FAM

[The Conservative]

Uh oh. I've spilled the beans. Have you learned the truth about Santa and the tooth fairy yet?

No I want your definition, because to me it sounds like it's in your head.

Umm, ex: you and StA despise urban people and their culture. Is that not a divide?

That's not what I asked. Try again to answer a simple question.

[Speaker to Animals]

I FUCKING LOVE ALL THIS VIBRANT CUTLURE FAM

So sophisticated. So tolerant.

[brewster]

And you think "culture" anywhere <100K sardines is "non-existent."

Not that there isn't culture there, but that they're not significant exporters to popular culture (the topic being discussed) compared to the cities. Ex: How many charted pop songs get produced in small towns compared to Nashville, LA & NY?

@conservative, I don't know what you want. I gave a perfectly clear example of what I mean. One group of people hates another groups culture. It's your turn to say why that's not a cultural divide.

[SuburbanFarmer]

And many of them probably feel the exactly the same about you. That there are cultural divides is not news. Doesn't mean there aren't real benefits to living in a city besides the salary that lead people to choose to live there. It's pretty clear that for the majority of Americans, being a Jeffersonian Yeoman Farmer would be like being sent to a re-education camp by Mao.

But we don't need to live in dehumanizing conditions for those jobs any longer. We can spread work out across the country (world even) with communication technologies.

This shit is no longer necessary and it's become a destructive force within our civilization. Most of the degeneracy and decay comes out of those large cities.

That is studiously ignoring all the positive aspects that cities bring to it's residents and the culture. A similar one sided case could be made for dispersed rural living. Note that's where the meth epidemic has it's base.

Interesting NYTimes op-ed on class denial in the US. I've always felt there are 2 big lies in the US, that there's no class barriers and that there's a free market. The class obfuscation prevents people from even knowing what class they're in.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/10/opin ... inion&_r=0

Good post. But I'd say the opposite - "Stop pretending you're about to get rich"

[brewster]

Good post. But I'd say the opposite - "Stop pretending you're about to get rich"

Yup, 2 sides of the same coin. "Joe the Plumber" who would never be rich enough to pay the tax he was complaining about, and people pulling in $250k who complain that what with the private school tuition and the mortgages on the condo and the country house they can barely scrape by, how could they be rich?