Here's a decent recap of the weekend I saw a few minutes ago: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-oba ... veillance/C-Mag wrote:This is pretty simple. Let's see the FISA Requests and the action taken on them.TheReal_ND wrote:That does. Recently unnamed sources say Comey is asking the DOJ to drop the Trump allegations.C-Mag wrote:
I've been busy this weekend and not following this story too closely, but a buddy of mine has been texting me saying this is a watershed moment and it will be either Trump or Obama's Waterloo.
So I'm trying to get caught up on this. What I understand currently is
Trump says Obama tapped his communications
Obama denied
Press says Trump evidence shaky
Obama did put in 2 FISA court requests to tap Trump, at least one was denied
Does that about sum it up ?
That said,, it won't be simple there will be a civil war in the FBI, NSA and DOJ over this, cause if it happened, they are all guilty.
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TheReal_ND wrote:I'm not sure this is even a breach of ethics though. If I was Obama and believed all my breathless sources when they clambered over each other to tell me Putler was hacking the election I would probably do the same.
I think you have it backwards. They knew from day one that the DNC leaks were from inside the DNC, not from Russian hackers, and that the people who phished Podesta's emails could have been from anywhere. The Russia hack was initially just an excuse to create a smokescreen to obfuscate all the corruption those leaks revealed. But when that wasn't working, they wanted to counter it by leaking equally damaging material about Trump. So they tried to get a FISA warrant on him and his associates using their unsubstantiated conspiracy theory and were rejected (amazing considering how that court is basically a rubber stamp as it is).
Then they went back to FISA with a theory that there was this server in Trump Tower that was connecting secretly to some Russian bank and they believed there was some kind of criminal activity going on (a lie). They got the warrant. They found no evidence of criminal activity or even connections between Trump and Russia. But they continued spying on Trump and his associates.
I think they actually believed it was impossible for Trump to get elected, so they would never get caught doing this shit. But then Trump was elected, and they went into a damage control plan. Obama at the last minute changed the orders of succession so that people like Lerner would become the acting bureaucrats, who were confidants in this thing. The people who are really are in deep shit are the people in the intelligence community who participated in this criminal conspiracy (and that's what it is).
They have everything to lose now. So they have been trying to hold up Trump in every way. The Senate democrats I think are at least partially in on it (especially people like Schumer, who joked how the intelligence community would make Trump pay and he knew it was going to happen).
The reason you see some of them obsessing over the idea of impeachment is that they know quite a lot of people are facing criminal charges when this shit blows up in their faces.
This entire "Russian hack" farce is a smokescreen to cover up this crime, in my opinion.
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Also, combining this with the bogus Russian conspiracy investigation was pure genius.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:The Senate democrats I think are at least partially in on it (especially people like Schumer, who joked how the intelligence community would make Trump pay and he knew it was going to happen).
Chuckles really is a dumb shit.
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Another thing that is becoming clear, these coordinated MSM attacks were probably not leaks from his cabinet at all. The intelligence community has been spying on them and leaking those documents. The MSM, it seems clear to me, has colluded with some faction within the intelligence community. There are some other stories that uncovered this as well. Cassandra Fairbanks uncovered some evidence of this going on.
She discusses it a bit with Lee Stranahan in this interview right around 28:00.
She discusses it a bit with Lee Stranahan in this interview right around 28:00.
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Good one, Fife.Fife wrote:Here's a decent recap of the weekend I saw a few minutes ago: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-oba ... veillance/
There are a lot of conditional if's in there, but the final sentence truly warms my stony heart.
Lawnewz wrote:Democrats may get the investigation they wanted, but it may be their own that end up named in the indictment.
"She had yellow hair and she walked funny and she made a noise like... O my God, please don't kill me! "
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I like how it's supposedly a shocker that the media and intelligence agencies collude together.
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I think the democrats are going to get burned badly from this story. Trump flipped the script on them. Really, Levin did it. Levin became a hero last week.
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If his head gets anymore blown up it's going to explode. Trump made a bad decision couching his play on his charge.Speaker to Animals wrote:I think the democrats are going to get burned badly from this story. Trump flipped the script on them. Really, Levin did it. Levin became a hero last week.