Our Guy Flynn

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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by ssu » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:34 pm

Well, that was hilariously quick. I assumed it would take a bit longer. I was proved wrong: it wasn't sooner or later, it was immediately!
“Unfortunately, because of the fast pace of events, I inadvertently briefed the vice president-elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian ambassador,” he wrote. “I have sincerely apologized to the president and the vice president, and they have accepted my apology.”
See here

Gone just like Manafort.
Smitty-48 wrote:If they can get Flynn, they can get Bannon, once they've taken down Flynn and Bannon, then it's gonna be a rout.
Indeed.

Bannon is the next target. For everybody.

And the Russia card against Trump won't be going anywhere with the Dems. It's been now the way to get to Trump, so why would the opposition leave it.

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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by StCapps » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:06 am

Gaslit by WaPo. Patraeus being floated as a possible replacement. Score one for Mike Pence and the Establishment GOP indeed. Bannon best watch his back with Trump that quick to cave.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:13 am

I like the Caesar's wife approach.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:15 am

The Pence & Co strategy is clearly to just let Trump burn his fingers on the hot iron of an Administration in dissaray, let him flail for a bit, then come in and say "look, these people don't know how to run things at this level, and they're making you look stupid, it's all well and good to be loyal to your people, unless of course they can't do the job, so let us bring in our people, staff this place up with pros who know how to run shit, all these amatuers have to go, because they're starting to drag you down" and apparently, Trump is in agreement.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by StCapps » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:20 am

If Trump was going to dump Flynn he should have held out longer and showed some backbone. There was no need to cave so early and embolden the opposition. Steve Bannon best sleep with one eye open, they'll want his head next.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:27 am

But I think Trump is starting to realize that being an Outsider with a tiny staff of Outsiders, is a big pain in the ass, and in fact, the GOP Establishment could actually be quite usefull right about now, the most important thing here, if you're Trump, is Trump, if things ain't running smoothly, which they ain't, that's damaging the Trump brand, so it's entirely in Trump's interests to let the GOP Establishment take over, this ain't their first rodeo, Trump needs help, and there's really only one place he's going to get it, and it ain't Breitbart.com.

Basically, what Trump needs, is a ready made staff in a box, you pull the ripcord, and a fully trained WH staff pops out of the box.

Where is he is going to find such a thing? AIn't gonna be the Democrats.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by StCapps » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:48 am

Smitty-48 wrote:But I think Trump is starting to realize that being an Outsider with a tiny staff of Outsiders, is a big pain in the ass, and in fact, the GOP Establishment could actually be quite usefull right about now, the most important thing here, if you're Trump, is Trump, if things ain't running smoothly, which they ain't, that's damaging the Trump brand, so it's entirely in Trump's interests to let the GOP Establishment take over, this ain't their first rodeo, Trump needs help, and there's really only one place he's going to get it, and it ain't Breitbart.com.
Well if he's out to throw the outsiders under the bus and replace them with establishment insiders, he's certainly acting accordingly.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:53 am

The other option is to just keep flailing without having the place properly staffed with people who know what they're doing because they've done it before, until such time that it really goes off the rails, which, is no real option at all.

It's not too late by any means, he hasn't let things go completely off the rails, but it is starting to drift and that's picking up momentum as it goes, and I think Trump feels it, I don't think he's liking the dissaray factor here, I think he's looking for some people to come in and take of all these little details, which are not getting taken care of, which, as you let that pile up, is starting to grind things to a halt.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:02 am

Smitty-48 wrote:The other option is to just keep flailing without having the place properly staffed with people who know what they're doing because they've done it before, until such time that it really goes off the rails, which, is no real option at all.

It's not too late by any means, he hasn't let things go completely off the rails, but it is starting to drift and that's picking up momentum as it goes, and I think Trump feels it, I don't think he's liking the dissaray factor here, I think he's looking for some people to come in and take of all these little details, which are not getting taken care of, which, as you let that pile up, is starting to grind things to a halt.
He did run partially on his ability to 'hire the best people.' It might be a bitter pill to swallow for people who (justifiably) want a real shake up, but people with a little experience might be the best people for a job.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:08 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: He did run partially on his ability to 'hire the best people.' It might be a bitter pill to swallow for people who (justifiably) want a real shake up, but people with a little experience might be the best people for a job.
It's two seperate issues, it's not actually the President's job to hire every single member of his staff, and no President does that, Trump's job is to hire Cabinet Secretaries, Supreme Court Justices, Chairmans of the Joint Chiefs, etcetera. The President cannot become bogged down in minutae, drowned in the details of trying to run the WH, and Trump is simply having his TFW moment on that, the smart thing to do here, is to just let the GOP staff the place up, and don't worry too much about it, there's no need to white knuckle it, they're not going to try to take their own President down, they will rally around him, he simply has to let them in and turn them loose, Staff in a Box.

But yeah, guys like Bannon, guys like Flynn, loose cannons like that, they gotta go, that will be the price.

And, as I said, if Trump was really not prepared to cuck out, then he shouldn't have cucked at all, but he did cuck, Marge, he threw Flynn under the bus and it didn't take that much, if he wasn't prepared to cuck, then he wouldn't have done that, but since he did do it, without putting up any fight at all, pretty much President big ol' Cuck-a-Roo, yodeling cuck-a-doodle-do.
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