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Post by Fife » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:39 am

Smitty-48 wrote:There's literally no legislative defense against this threat, if you're serious about defending against this threat, it would have to be an operational defense, so for the Las Vegas scenario, if you told the Secret Service to defend against that threat, and they couldn't clear the entire Mandalay Bay, then they have to go to counter-sniper drill, acoustic small arms fire detector direction finders, and their own snipers posted in overwatch, and everybody who goes into the arena, can be offered a ballistic helmet and vest with inserts. If not, then there's no countermeasure.

Like, if Donald Trump had been the show there? The guy would have been dead within twenty seconds of opening fire. Well, actually, as soon as he broke the window with the hammer, blam, dead, right there, so, wouldn't even get a chance to open fire if he had to break glass.
+1. :clap: Judge Nap should put you in his footnotes.

Can the Government Keep Us Safe?
When the Supreme Court interpreted this right in 2008 and 2010, it referred to the right to keep and bear arms as pre-political. “Pre-political” means that the right pre-existed the government. It is a secular term for a fundamental, or natural, right. A natural right is one that stems from our humanity — such as freedom of thought, speech, religion, self-defense, privacy, travel, etc. It does not come from the government, and it exists in the absence of government.

The recognition of a right as fundamental or natural or pre-political is not a mere academic exercise. This is so because rights in this category cannot be abrogated by the popular will. Stated differently, just as your right to think as you wish and say what you think cannot be interfered with or taken away in America by legislation, so, too, your right to own, carry and use arms of the same sophistication as are generally available to bad guys and to government officials cannot be interfered with or taken away by legislation. That is at least the modern theory of the Second Amendment.

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Surely, if the president of the United States were to have appeared at the concert venue in Las Vegas to address the crowd, the Las Vegas killer would never have succeeded in bringing his arsenal to his hotel room. Government always protects its own. Shouldn’t landowners who invite the public to their properties do the same?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:40 am

You know what? I'm gonna patent that name right now "Countersniper USA", cause that's the future right there, right thur, Go Daddy dot com, right fuckin' now...
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:44 am

I need an American to be my partner, public face of the company, Okie, let's fuckin go, it's go time, right now, this is our new business, you can be CEO...
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Post by Fife » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:45 am

Smitty-48 wrote:You know what? I'm gonna patent that name right now "Countersniper USA", cause that's the future right there, right thur, Go Daddy dot com, right fuckin' now...
After the Mandalay Bay gets through paying 500+ dead and injured families for letting this goomba bring a whole fucking gun store to his room, that CountersniperUSA business model is going to be absolutely fantastic. I don't know about a patent, but you got some good IP cooking up there, cousin.

The insurance industry is about to remake private security in the wake of this clusterfuck. And good on 'em. There are going to be gushers of cash for serious operators RWA to offer best-practices security services, post-Mandalay.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:50 am

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:57 am

Where's Marty Hash? Need some seed money over here, let's go Daddy Warbucks, cough up some dough.
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Post by de officiis » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:58 am

Kazmyr wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
de officiis wrote:
Like Adam Lanza.
Who?
The dickhole that shot up the school in Newtown, CT.

Didn't they find a bunch of half full mags there? He clearly thought he was playing real-life Call of Duty, if so.
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One look tells you all you need to know.

And don't forget James Holmes' AR-15

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:03 pm

de officiis wrote:
Kazmyr wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Who?
The dickhole that shot up the school in Newtown, CT.

Didn't they find a bunch of half full mags there? He clearly thought he was playing real-life Call of Duty, if so.
One look tells you all you need to know.

And don't forget James Holmes' AR-15
Yeah, but what's your point, they couldn't have done it without NFA prohibited weapons? Did they use a bumb stock? Did they need thirty round magazines? James Holmes couldn't have lit up a theater with a pump action shotgun? Retarded kid there couldn't have lit up a school with a pump action shotgun? Pretty sure they could have.

How much traning do you need, to hand load shells into the breach, pocket full of shells, shoot all day? It's on youtube, take you five minutes to learn how to do it, if you wanna get really good, just watch The Art of Tactical Shotgun by Magpul Dynamics, who knew?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:27 pm

Bear in mind, this clown in Las Vegas, he could have done that in Canada, he passed an FBI background check, so he could get a restricted firearms license here, two day course, by monday morning he's heading on down to the gun shop to buy an automatic rifle, or ten if he wanted to.

So he's restricted to five round magazine? So what, he had the rifle on the tripod, you could just pop off five rounds, hit the mag release, slap another mag on the rifle, you could be putting down a hundred rounds a minute that way, if it was 7-6-2, people's body parts would be flying off and their heads would be exploding, even if he wan't aiming, just shooting at random into the crowd, and with 168gr slugs, would have killed more than 59, without even trying.

But if he didn't want the pain in the ass of changing mags every couple seconds? Not that hard to get illegal mags in Canada, the two mass shooters we had here recently, one had a HK91, the other had an M14, they both had 20rd magazines, and even the Mounties didn't stand a chance against them.

So much for gun control v. the mass shooter. Take it from Canadians; gun control doesn't work, it's just liberal feelz security theater "do something!" nonsense blather.

Strictest gun control in North America, draconian gun control by American standards, and even the Royal Canadian Mounted Police themselves, were not protected by it, totally outgunned, never even stood a chance, against two guys from the tralier park with mail order catalogues? Mmhmm.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:37 pm

Oh and you know what they did in response? They gave the cops here AR carbines to have in their cruisers, just in case, but guess what? Against an HK91 or M14? They're still massively outgunned, even with an AR carbine, they still don't stand a chance against 7-6-2.

Could be shooting you right through both sides of the cruiser, while the rounds from that AR pop gun aren't even reaching me coming the other way. At 600 yards, my rounds are going through both doors of the car and your "bulletproof" vest too, while your rounds are splashing into the dirt, at 400 yards. Short barrel carbine 5-5-6? That's not a battle rifle, that's a submachine gun for all intents and purposes.

So even for the cops, these liberals ain't serious, even the cops only get security theater feelz to protect them.

Tell you right now, Me + 12 gauge shotgun? I'm better protected than these cops are, they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, AR carbine don't make them any more tactical in the tall grass, which, they ain't even trained for.
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