Our Guy Flynn

[clubgop]

Jesus, you want me to admit to being wrong about an attempted capitalization on Russia from Exxon, being directly engineered by our Secretary of State, with an article right fucking there, because Trumpstain reversed it 2 days later when he got the backlash? Are you fucking delusional?

You lying piece of shit. The request goes back to the Obama Admin and there was no reversal. You are a liar and a whore. Admit you were wrong, bitch. Can you not read your own article from the NYT?

READ YOUR OWN LINK you fucking shitstain. Exxon had a deal to develop arctic russia, and has been there for 20 years, spearheaded by their motherfucking CEO Tillerson. Then they got blocked by Obama. Now, mysteriously, as soon as Tillerson visits, they apply for a special exemption to the sanctions. Trump waits 2 days to see what happens, then says no.

How fucking sad is your life that this is what you bring to this forum? You're so goddamn desperate for anything to validate your crumbling worldview, that you're hoping I'll just be lazier than you on a 4-month-old topic?

So not a reversal. Admit you were wrong and apologize you fuck. And the question still stands answer it once you pull your dick out of your couson of course.

[SuburbanFarmer]

This is the article you posted lying bitch.

HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil is pursuing a waiver from Treasury Department sanctions on Russia to drill in the Black Sea in a venture with Rosneft, the Russian state oil company, a former State Department official said on Wednesday. An oil industry official confirmed the account.

The waiver application was made under the Obama administration, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity, and the company has not dropped the proposal.

The proposal is now before the Trump administration at a delicate time in Russian-American relations, with rising tensions over the war in Syria and a looming congressional inquiry into reports of Russian efforts to influence the United States presidential election.

The appeal did not come up during Senate confirmation hearings for Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson, who was Exxon Mobil’s chief executive before his nomination by President Trump and was known to have a strong working relationship with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. At the time, Mr. Tillerson and other company officials said they had not lobbied against the sanctions, which were imposed on Russia in response to its military intervention in Ukraine.

Does syphilis effect reading comprehension? Fuck you may not be lying you might actually be this dumb.

Oh. My god. You're serious.

"ANONYMOUS OFFICIALS" report that the request was made under Obama - A period which lasted until FUCKING JANUARY, but has been sitting there on a desk for 4 months. Yet, it very mysteriously came up "before the Trump administration" the FUCKING DAY AFTER the SecState visits Russia for the first time. Holy fucking hell what a coincidence.

Please tell me - when Satan eats the flying chariot in 2 weeks, are you going to wave a fucking stick at the sky, or just sacrifice your dog to restore it to the world?

[clubgop]

This is the article you posted lying bitch.

HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil is pursuing a waiver from Treasury Department sanctions on Russia to drill in the Black Sea in a venture with Rosneft, the Russian state oil company, a former State Department official said on Wednesday. An oil industry official confirmed the account.

The waiver application was made under the Obama administration, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity, and the company has not dropped the proposal.

The proposal is now before the Trump administration at a delicate time in Russian-American relations, with rising tensions over the war in Syria and a looming congressional inquiry into reports of Russian efforts to influence the United States presidential election.

The appeal did not come up during Senate confirmation hearings for Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson, who was Exxon Mobil’s chief executive before his nomination by President Trump and was known to have a strong working relationship with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. At the time, Mr. Tillerson and other company officials said they had not lobbied against the sanctions, which were imposed on Russia in response to its military intervention in Ukraine.

Does syphilis effect reading comprehension? Fuck you may not be lying you might actually be this dumb.

Oh. My god. You're serious.

"ANONYMOUS OFFICIALS" report that the request was made under Obama - A period which lasted until FUCKING JANUARY, but has been sitting there on a desk for 4 months. Yet, it very mysteriously came up "before the Trump administration" the FUCKING DAY AFTER the SecState visits Russia for the first time. Holy fucking hell what a coincidence.

Please tell me - when Satan eats the flying chariot in 2 weeks, are you going to wave a fucking stick at the sky, or just sacrifice your dog to restore it to the world?

Yes Alex Jones, tell me of Comet Pizzas schedule. Still not a reversal. You lied. Admit it. You are already sliding towards the truth. First the decision was made. Then they had been drilling there for 20 years. Then Obama prevented it. Then he didn't. Your story changes with every retelling. You are now telling wild eyed conspiracy theories. Did the diebold Puting voting machine change your vote from Hillary to Cthululu. What's its like to have more inches in your height than points in your IQ?

[clubgop]

Let's vivisect this bitch.

I post this question.

What is Russia getting now that they could not get from Obama/Clinton?

Your answer was

Here ya go, chuckles. Get out of your bubble.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/busi ... .html?_r=0

Look at the date you dishonest piece of shit.

viewtopic.php?f=63&t=1565&start=500#p58857

Wed May 10, 2017 11:05 pm

Reversal, no reversal. Trail balloon, doesn't matter you knew it wasn't true at the time you posted it. Admit you were wrong bitch. Your dishonesty is laid bare for everyone to see. Man I hope for the sake of your children you don't do your taxes or anything a responsible adult should handle. Admit you were wrong you dishonest bitch.

[kybkh]

You guys take this horseplay to another board. Don't go defiling this master piece of a thread which discussed in depth the war taking place with-in the US Counter-Intelligence community.

Especially on the heels of General Flynn's veritable "Waterloo" after which he has now been totally washed out by McMaster and the Neo-Libs.

Flynn and Company are running out of men and are low on ammo. With him goes the Trump presidency...


In one of several recent conversations, Flynn told me, “We have to figure out how to work with Russia instead of making it an enemy. We have so many problems that we were handed on a plate from this President”—meaning Obama. He lifted a bread plate and waved it. He characterized the negative attention on him as part of a larger conspiracy against Trump. “I’m a target to get at Trump to delegitimize the election,” he said. The press had him “damn near all wrong.” Reporters were just chasing after wild theories, while neglecting to consider his career as a decorated Army officer. “You don’t just sprinkle magic dust on someone, and, poof, they become a three-star general,” he said.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... eral-chaos

Also, an interesting piece of the Flynn puzzle became ever more apparent. We talked about if Gen Flynn was the real Master of Meme's and what part he played in the Great Meme War of 2016.

On thing is certain, this virtual nobody, Mike Cernovich popped up out of nowhere to become a top tier meme pusher and when the last of the Flynn boys were cut lose he lost it and went apeshit on McMaster.

H. R. McMaster Manipulating Intelligence Reports to Trump, Wants 150,000 Ground Soldiers in Syria

Two men were standing in between another U.S.-led war in the Middle East — General Mike Flynn and Steve Bannon.
Flynn was removed after Susan Rice unmasked classified information concerning him. Bannon’s role within the White House was weakened by McMaster, who demanded Bannon be removed from his advisory position at NSC.

https://medium.com/@Cernovich/h-r-mcmas ... 346c433e99

[de officiis]

Still no one can answer the question that demands an answer. What is Russia getting now that they could not get from Obama/Clinton? Until you can answer that or present one shred of evidence, you have nothing and everyone knows it.

I'm not persuaded that you would need to prove a conferred benefit to prove collusive conduct. You could argue that its absence is a mitigating factor, but I think the elements would involve different proofs. To use a simple analogy, attempted murder is punished less harshly than murder, but they're both illegal. Similarly, we punish people who offer material support to terrorists, even though in fact they are dealing with the FBI.

[clubgop]

Still no one can answer the question that demands an answer. What is Russia getting now that they could not get from Obama/Clinton? Until you can answer that or present one shred of evidence, you have nothing and everyone knows it.

I'm not persuaded that you would need to prove a conferred benefit to prove collusive conduct. You could argue that its absence is a mitigating factor, but I think the elements would involve different proofs. To use a simple analogy, attempted murder is punished less harshly than murder, but they're both illegal. Similarly, we punish people who offer material support to terrorists, even though in fact they are dealing with the FBI.

Can you point to me the statute that makes "collusion" illegal? While I appreciate your legal mind on this. I know the argument I am making is political, not legal. The fact you have to point this out makes it clear that this whole thing is at this point and for several months now, just a political shit show. The fact that the only answer I can get is first an outright lie and then an artful dodge provides me with all I need to know.

[TheReal_ND]

Cernovich popped up out of nowhere to become a top tier meme pusher

That's because he literally shills his shit on /pol/. He got popular for saying a few edgy things but then he went and started shit talking anyone that wasn't pro Israel or racist. Dude is like one of the few controlled opo right wing twitter accounts that is never in jeopardy.

[clubgop]

[quote]You guys take this horseplay to another board. Don't go defiling this master piece of a thread which discussed in depth the war taking place with-in the US Counter-Intelligence community.[/quote

If anything I am demonstrating the dishonest lengths that bitch, GCF will go through just to tryto get a W. ]

[de officiis]

Still no one can answer the question that demands an answer. What is Russia getting now that they could not get from Obama/Clinton? Until you can answer that or present one shred of evidence, you have nothing and everyone knows it.

I'm not persuaded that you would need to prove a conferred benefit to prove collusive conduct. You could argue that its absence is a mitigating factor, but I think the elements would involve different proofs. To use a simple analogy, attempted murder is punished less harshly than murder, but they're both illegal. Similarly, we punish people who offer material support to terrorists, even though in fact they are dealing with the FBI.

Can you point to me the statute that makes "collusion" illegal? While I appreciate your legal mind on this. I know the argument I am making is political, not legal. The fact you have to point this out makes it clear that this whole thing is at this point and for several months now, just a political shit show. The fact that the only answer I can get is first an outright lie and then an artful dodge provides me with all I need to know.

"Collusion" isn't really a legal term; "conspiracy" is. The order appointing Bob Mueller states that he "is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links an or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

It further provides that if "the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters."

From what I have read, the federal election statute that has been discussed is 52 U.S. Code § 30121, "Contributions and donations by foreign nationals," which states,

(a) Prohibition - It shall be unlawful for—

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.

(b) “Foreign national” defined As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—

(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22, except that the term “foreign national” shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or

(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.

If two or more people were to agree to do something in violation of this statute, that would be your conspiracy count under 18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States:

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

There are significant legal hurdles to relying on § 30121, relating primarily to the requirement of Subparagraphs (1)(A) and (2) that the foreign national make, or a person accept, "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value." As Jonathan Turley has noted, "If the receipt of opposition research from a foreigner is now equivalent to receiving illegal campaign funds, the law would extend to foreign academics, public interest groups, nongovernment organizations, and journalists supplying information to a campaign." But this objection has more to do with how broadly "other thing of value" should be defined, than to whether someone attempted or successfully completed the making and acceptance of the "other thing of value." In fact, § 30121 does not require any proof that Russia actually (to use your terms) "got something" (e.g., an advantageous shift in American foreign policy) in exchange for the contribution or donation. It merely requires the making or the receiving of the donation, etc. be "in connection with a Federal, State, or local election."