Brexit

[Ph64]

[Montegriffo]

Are these figures true?

[Ph64]

I believe their source is this article from "NaturalNews"

https://www.naturalnews.com/038819_food ... _eggs.html#

Now, while they might gave some decent articles, my personal experience is they swing into some out there stuff at times. Like this:

https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/earths ... en-towers/

https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/scalar ... y-of-life/

Or Holistic/homeopathic cures for cancer, etc:

https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/real-h ... nally-ill/

The first article on food is from 2013, the link to the FDA data is stale (goes nowhere), so you'd have to search the FDA site for current info. I might note the article quotes the FDA as saying:

They claim that "defect levels do not represent an average of the defects that occur in any of the products -- the averages are actually much lower."

I would be curious to know if you've looked up the UK or EU rules from their equivalent organization(s)? Fly eggs are tiny, I would think the possibility of them in any food would be fairly high - go pick a fresh Apple from an orchard and I'd bet you're consuming fly eggs as soon as you bite it, even if you washed it off.

...and is suggest you browse NN a bit before taking their "news" wholesale.

[Ph64]

Might check your own UK news too (2014, a year after the NN article):

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2014060 ... re-of-food

AgriProtein announced earlier this month that it had raised $11m to build its first two commercial-scale farms. The first, in Cape Town, will create 20 tonnes of larvae and 20 tonnes of fertiliser per day.

It uses three species – the black soldier fly, the blowfly and the common housefly. Each is adapted to feed on different types of waste, and their meals include leftover or spoiled food, manure and abattoir waste. Males and females are bred in giant cages and their eggs are extracted and mixed with its food. One kilogram of eggs turns into around 380kg of larvae in just three days. The larvae are then extracted, dried and milled, leaving behind nitrogen-rich material for compost.

AgriProtein’s Magmeal product is approved as a feed for chickens and fish in South Africa. The company is also preparing to apply for approval for an iron-rich product made from larvae fed on blood and guts for use as an additive for breeding sows; piglets aren’t born with enough iron, and in the wild animals usually get what they need from soil. In captivity, they need iron supplements. AgriProtein hope their product will be cheaper.

AgriProtein is not alone. The Vancouver-based Enterra Feed Corporation hope to triple production of black soldier fly larvae products for pet food and eventually for aquaculture feed by next summer. EnviroFlight, based in Ohio in the US, also produces feed for farmed fish made from black soldier fly larvae. Ynsect hopes to be farming mealworms and black soldier flies near Paris on a large scale by 2016. And Protix Biosystems in the Netherlands is now planning to expand its black soldier fly farming operation, selling larvae lipids for use in animal feed, and protein to pet food manufacturers.

Laws in some regions, however, are currently preventing insect-feed taking off. In the European Union, insects fall under the same rules as traditional livestock once they have been killed, dried or otherwise processed. That means their protein can be fed to pets but not to animals destined for human consumption. Even if this was to be changed, other regulations state that farmed animals cannot be fed on catering waste or manure. These regulations, drawn up in the wake of the 1990s BSE crisis, were never intended to apply to insects.

The European Commission's Directorate-General for Health and Consumers in Brussels is working towards allowing insect meal to be fed to farmed fish. But this is likely to take a year.

Different laws apply in different US states. Insect-based ingredients in feed given to animals bred for human consumption are allowed in Ohio, and manufacturers are hopeful that other states will follow their lead. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is also considering allowing protein and fats from insect larvae to be used in aquaculture and chicken feed.

[Ph64]

I browsed around, but the EU site is horrible IMHO. Lots of scientific studies, little info on official limits.

http://www.efsa.europa.eu

At any rate, good luck trying to find anything from the maze of EU regulations. Apparently the old ruling for bananas tried to regulate the curvature of the banana. No link to the new standards, a search got me to a summary which apparently links to tons of other regulations... one well crafted pdf summary would be nice, but apparently that doesn't fit with the beaurocracy that is the EU.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commiss ... o._2257/94

I've wasted enough time on it.

[Zlaxer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46692176

Gen Zorn told the Funke newspaper group that "of course the Bundeswehr needs personnel" and the army had to "push hard for a suitable new generation", although EU citizens in uniform were "an option" to be examined only in specialist fields.

Parliament's commissioner for the armed forces, Hans-Peter Bartels, said recruiting EU citizens was already a "kind of normality" as many soldiers already had dual nationality or an immigrant background.

Lolz you stupid Euroweenies - England - get the fuck away from them now!

[Ph64]

Higher wages and better job opportunities... God forbid!

[Montegriffo]

A shortage of skilled workers such as healthcare professionals and firms unable to expand due to labour shortages. Who wouldn't want that?
Sure, prices of everything will skyrocket due to tariffs but I'm sure our benevolent employers will increase our incomes to cover the difference.
Added bonus, we now have no influence in the future direction of the continent we are part of.

[Martin Hash]

What about the countries those workers are coming from? Don’t they need nurses? Fuck them, Britain first?

[Montegriffo]

What about the countries those workers are coming from? Don’t they need nurses? Fuck them, Britain first?

British trained doctors and nurses leave the UK to work abroad in large numbers. Are you suggesting they should not be allowed to do so?
I thought you were a liberty guy.
If British healthcare workers are free to travel abroad for improved pay or working conditions why shouldn't a Spanish or Italian doctor be free to do the same?
We are not talking about illegal fruit pickers here, we are talking skilled, qualified workers filling vacancies in an understaffed NHS.