I know we’re all desperate to stay positive. And I know most Americans don’t have the time or energy to really look past the top-line news they see and hear. And I know the media, academia and Hollywood are very effective at shaping our impressions of social and political goings-on. And I know politicians on both sides of the aisle are congratulating you for “doing your part” to help beat the COVID-19 virus. And I know that makes you feel good at a time we could all really use some lifting up.
It’s a powerful cocktail of forces especially when virtually everyone you know is 100% bought in, too. But as every good parent will at some point tell their children: just because everyone else is doing it, doesn’t make it right.
A bit of a sidebar question with this ongoing situation but what is with the MSM fanatical reporting on the Asian "Killer" Hornet all of a sudden? This thing was discovered/reported in November of '19, why the sudden panic filled near daily reporting of this? I was just watching my local news here and they had a UF doc on talking about it. She even said she wasn't sure why this was a thing now since it was discovered months ago but there was a very low risk of it coming here anytime soon.
It just feels like jingly keys to keep us in a panic since 'Rona Rage seems to be dying down or distracted from something else. The ynn story maybe?
And I didn't use NY as a statistic because it is an extreme case. I'd say we are looking at between 25 to 30% of the country infected easily.
You're claiming to use statistics, but you leave out certain stats you don't feel like including.
We have no real idea how many people have been infected. Not enough people have been tested, and the ones that have were in select groups like health care workers. There is no large random sample that gives anyone any idea what percentage of people have been infected across the US.
And I didn't use NY as a statistic because it is an extreme case. I'd say we are looking at between 25 to 30% of the country infected easily.
You're claiming to use statistics, but you leave out certain stats you don't feel like including.
We have no real idea how many people have been infected. Not enough people have been tested, and the ones that have were in select groups like health care workers. There is no large random sample that gives anyone any idea what percentage of people have been infected across the US.
Would you say the actual numbers of infected are higher or lower than official statistics?
You're claiming to use statistics, but you leave out certain stats you don't feel like including.
We have no real idea how many people have been infected. Not enough people have been tested, and the ones that have were in select groups like health care workers. There is no large random sample that gives anyone any idea what percentage of people have been infected across the US.
Would you say the actual numbers of infected are higher or lower than official statistics?
Official U.S. cases based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ stands at about 1.2m. That number is going to be low as some people never get tested. There are over 300m people in the US. There is no way 30% of the population has had it, even accounting for untested cases. Throwing numbers like that out there have no statistical ground to stand on.
So I say it's more than 1.2m, but not 25-30% of the population. If that was the case you would have higher deaths.
People say this is just a flu bro. 1285 in every 1,000,000 people in New York have already died from this. That's more than 1 in 1,000. That isn't deaths compared to confirmed cases, that is deaths compared to people living there, and it's not done yet. That is in the span of 2 months, not a year.
What if this mutates into something that does target the young? Then will you begin to care? Probably not. Most of you won't care until either you or a loved one ends up in an ICU and you have to face it directly.
Yes, we need to keep the economy moving. This is not a choice between opening things up and believing the virus is dangerous. It's both. Let's open things up safely and with the seriousness of the virus in mind. That seems to be too difficult for some people to deal with.
This place is mostly a bunch of caricatures at this point.
If that was the case you would have higher deaths.
See, that's where I disagree with you. All of the antibody testing that has been done has shown a much larger number than was ever anticipated, and it has been in the US since at least Nov. And yet it wasn't until March when people started getting hooked up to respirators and the bodies started piling up. You're taking the current death rate, based on inaccurate data, and using that bad data to extrapolate how many deaths there'd be at 25% infected over the entire population.
You're claiming to use statistics, but you leave out certain stats you don't feel like including.
We have no real idea how many people have been infected. Not enough people have been tested, and the ones that have were in select groups like health care workers. There is no large random sample that gives anyone any idea what percentage of people have been infected across the US.
Would you say the actual numbers of infected are higher or lower than official statistics?
Official U.S. cases based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ stands at about 1.2m. That number is going to be low as some people never get tested. There are over 300m people in the US. There is no way 30% of the population has had it, even accounting for untested cases. Throwing numbers like that out there have no statistical ground to stand on.
So I say it's more than 1.2m, but not 25-30% of the population. If that was the case you would have higher deaths.
1) You would have higher deaths only if the kill rate is higher. You would have same number of deaths if kill rate remains same while more cases are discovered. Evidence is trending towards the later.
2) we tested small populations extensively and found incredibly high rates 30-40% of them already had it and showed no symptoms.
