Another School Shooting

[SuburbanFarmer]

What American empire? Who operates this empire? Who holds the shooty tubes for your side? The guy who does fuck all to protect anybody and still collect a pension. I mean you want to talk civil war we can talk some shot but you won't like it. Where do you think police live? You think they are going to report to work if the safety of thier families aren't guaranteed? You really think they can put down a rebellion of significant size and you will suffer no consequences for it.

There will never be a rebellion "of significant size" in America. Even if the grid went down, people would be too confused to rise up en masse. The media makes sure of that.

Think about it, at this point, what could possibly inspire more than a dozen people to seriously take up arms against the government?

If the grid goes down, what media?

Yeah, I kind of slurred my thoughts together.

If the grid is up, people will always be confused into inaction. If it ever went down (Mad Max), they'd still be completely unable to organize and resist anything.

[Speaker to Animals]

You'd never be able to lock down the American people against their consent unless you started crucifying people along the interstates and inflicting more misery upon them than they can reciprocate (which is a lot).

A small group of crazies isn't a good example and you know it.

No need. Just control the propaganda machines, and tell them everything's great. It's all for their own safety, etc. Ship the malcontents off to privately-run prisons, and profit from them.

Eventually, the general population is confused and even angry at 'small groups of crazies'. They help you undermine that sort of thing, report on unusual activity for you, even support you rolling in the troops, because they have no idea what else they would do.

We've come a long way from mass intimidation as a means of control.

Oh, you mean like CNN that literally has people wanting to burn their whole fucking building to the ground because of the fascist AIDS they are propagating? Sure thing.

[StCapps]

There will never be a rebellion "of significant size" in America. Even if the grid went down, people would be too confused to rise up en masse. The media makes sure of that.

Think about it, at this point, what could possibly inspire more than a dozen people to seriously take up arms against the government?

If the grid goes down, what media?

Yeah, I kind of slurred my thoughts together.

If the grid is up, people will always be confused into inaction. If it ever went down (Mad Max), they'd still be completely unable to organize and resist anything.

They don't need much organization to thwart the US Empire, even a token resistance would give them fits.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's not like the rednecks are going to engage the army in the open field, it would be an insurgency, and the US Empire has trouble handling that shit in case Grumpy hasn't noticed. Just because they have more and better weapons doesn't it's going to go well for them.

Yes, so at some point, the US Government just gives up and quits? "You guys harassed us too much, we surrender!!!"

Not even in a muslim's wet dream.

Don't need them to surrender. Did Vietnam need the US to surrender to win that war? No, they didn't.
/shrugs

LOL The central US government was not threatened by Vietnam. In an insurgency, you do not win while the government stands. You either form a new government, or you fail. There are no other conditions.

And yes, the south Vietnamese did surrender, once the US pulled out.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You'd never be able to lock down the American people against their consent unless you started crucifying people along the interstates and inflicting more misery upon them than they can reciprocate (which is a lot).

A small group of crazies isn't a good example and you know it.

No need. Just control the propaganda machines, and tell them everything's great. It's all for their own safety, etc. Ship the malcontents off to privately-run prisons, and profit from them.

Eventually, the general population is confused and even angry at 'small groups of crazies'. They help you undermine that sort of thing, report on unusual activity for you, even support you rolling in the troops, because they have no idea what else they would do.

We've come a long way from mass intimidation as a means of control.

Oh, you mean like CNN that literally has people wanting to burn their whole fucking building to the ground because of the fascist AIDS they are propagating? Sure thing.

Because that's the same as marching an army to Washington, and storming the White House.

[TheReal_ND]

Pointing out that it's incredibly futile is not akin to supporting tyranny. Just be realistic about it. Your little shooting tubes and fellow rednecks wouldn't be worth fuck-all against the power of the Great American Empire.

What American empire? Who operates this empire? Who holds the shooty tubes for your side? The guy who does fuck all to protect anybody and still collect a pension. I mean you want to talk civil war we can talk some shot but you won't like it. Where do you think police live? You think they are going to report to work if the safety of thier families aren't guaranteed? You really think they can put down a rebellion of significant size and you will suffer no consequences for it.

There will never be a rebellion "of significant size" in America. Even if the grid went down, people would be too confused to rise up en masse. The media makes sure of that.

Think about it, at this point, what could possibly inspire more than a dozen people to seriously take up arms against the government?

This is actually a pertinent question that I have pondered myself as it seems clearer by the day we are over due for a violent revolution. I happen to be a NEO NAZI FROG POSTING RACIST BIGOT and better men than me have tried to instill the change we desperately need. It's always turned out in the past that just too few people are willing to give up the comfort of their own lives to become revolutionaries. Im not going to do it let's be honest. It's going to have to involve systemic collapse and when that happens there will be a lot of factions fighting each other for control. In this fantasy realm it would be my job to make sure MY side wins as we all have a stake in what happens next and I believe my side to be right. Will this happen? Probably not. But I just as your honest tankie commie will advocate for gun rights because the government has no right to strip our rights being a defunct cabal of oligarchs.

[Okeefenokee]

I've been away for a few days. I assume you've been bitch slapped for posting this ignorance in the meantime. Will revisit.

I guess no one caught that.

Yes, they had automatics.

Yes, the 2nd included cannons, the most powerful weapons of the day.

Yes, it was confirmed multiple times that the right to bear arms meant all arms.

How many ICBMs does Jeff Bezos own?

He has his own rocket program. derp.

[clubgop]

What American empire? Who operates this empire? Who holds the shooty tubes for your side? The guy who does fuck all to protect anybody and still collect a pension. I mean you want to talk civil war we can talk some shot but you won't like it. Where do you think police live? You think they are going to report to work if the safety of thier families aren't guaranteed? You really think they can put down a rebellion of significant size and you will suffer no consequences for it.

It's not like the rednecks are going to engage the army in the open field, it would be an insurgency, and the US Empire has trouble handling that shit in case Grumpy hasn't noticed. Just because they have more and better weapons doesn't it's going to go well for them.

Yes, so at some point, the US Government just gives up and quits? "You guys harassed us too much, we surrender!!!"

Not even in a muslim's wet dream.

No the US government makes the calculation it always makes. I can make billions of dollars for doing practically nothing or I can destroy my infrastructure and deplete my tax payer base and personnel to have complete control of a shithole.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I guess no one caught that.

Yes, they had automatics.

Yes, the 2nd included cannons, the most powerful weapons of the day.

Yes, it was confirmed multiple times that the right to bear arms meant all arms.

How many ICBMs does Jeff Bezos own?

He has his own rocket program. derp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile

In modern language, a missile is a self-propelled system, as opposed to an unguided self-propelled munition, referred to as a rocket (although these too can also be guided). Missiles have four system components: targeting or missile guidance, flight system, engine, and warhead.

[Okeefenokee]

How many miniaturized nukes? How many rocket launchers? Does he own a squadron of tanks?

The 2nd Amendment hasn't been "unlimited" since the Civil War. Nor has it been relevant to 'preventing tyranny'.

You are stupid. To operate a police state one would need actual boots on the ground. A fighter jet can't perform house to house raids. A rocket launcher can't secure critical infrastructure. The little logistical things for a tyranny are difficult.

Ok. Build up any level of small arms arsenal that you like. See how long you can hold off the local PD, let alone the Feds. And that's LONG before the National Guard gets involved.

This fantasy just never dies, despite the absolute futility of it.

So I guess the Taliban resistance was over in five minutes. You know, seeing as they don't have any nukes or fighter jets. derp