THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:54 am

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Smitty-48 wrote:I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang. If I thought something was pointlessly overclassified and lives were on the line? Of course I'd give the shooters in the breach the dope, in a heartbeat.

To me, this is not a bug with Flynn, this is a feature.
This tbh. Americans don't even understand third generation warfare let alone fourth. They model themselves after the most successful warfare tactics of the German army where officers have initiative and are encouraged to take it, then they turn right aroind and punish them when showing initiative. I think it was a tank commander trainer that said he doesn't even know what he's there to teach for anyway.
This is why the chain of command didn't like Flynn, why they ginned up shit against him, and why they fired him, but like I said, it's a feature not a bug, he's the perfect guy to be Trump's national security adviser, rule breaking outside of the establishment box, is what Trump is all about, that's what got him elected, and I'd say the people who elected him knew that Flynn was all part of the deal, concern trolls gonna concern troll, but I already knew who Flynn was, I already knew he was a rebel, but this is America son, was rebels who built it, did they not?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:59 am

Oh that we are but then the left goes around bureaucrafieng the fuck out of the damndest things. Never wrap my head around it. It's not a double standard either decrying the left's comparing of Flynn's actions to Hilary's as they are two completely different things.

A) Flynn was on the front lines fighting with allies and
B) Hilary was on her bathroom server coordinating high treason.

It's really amazing how the Cucks are separated from the wheat so easily but it's all as well. We don't need cucks on the front lines we need the best of the best and Okee just isn't ready.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:04 am

Flynn was McCrystal's hand picked JSOC intel chief, who built the network to fight the network in Iraq, if Flynn says he was justified in sharing critical intel with the Brits and Aussies, I believe him, quite sure it was overclassified by the CIA, stovepiping and empire building instead of sharing the intel the troops needed in the field, making the call in the field with lives on the line, fuck the bureaucratic bullshit; feature not a bug.

If it was something serious they would have charged him, the fact that all they did was give him a warning? You know it was chickenshit, and that he made the right call.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:06 am

stovepiping and empire building instead of
Feature, not a bug. Probably why the left is in panic mode. All their Empire crashing down around the campaign of an absolute madman.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:07 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang. If I thought something was pointlessly overclassified and lives were on the line? Of course I'd give the shooters in the breach the dope, in a heartbeat.

To me, this is not a bug with Flynn, this is a feature.
This tbh. Americans don't even understand third generation warfare let alone fourth. They model themselves after the most successful warfare tactics of the German army where officers have initiative and are encouraged to take it, then they turn right aroind and punish them when showing initiative. I think it was a tank commander trainer that said he doesn't even know what he's there to teach for anyway.
Showing initiative on the field is a different thing than disregarding regulations, not that you'd know fuck all about that.

Showing initiative is repositioning yourself and one other soldier to fend off a flanking attack by yourselves. Disregarding regulations is posting on facebook when your flight home is coming in so you can see that bird get thrashed with rockets as it hits the tarmac. But like I said, not that you'd know anything about that.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:09 am

Uh-oh, here comes Cuck-a-Roo with the appeal to authority fallacies now.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:10 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang. If I thought something was pointlessly overclassified and lives were on the line? Of course I'd give the shooters in the breach the dope, in a heartbeat.

To me, this is not a bug with Flynn, this is a feature.
This tbh. Americans don't even understand third generation warfare let alone fourth. They model themselves after the most successful warfare tactics of the German army where officers have initiative and are encouraged to take it, then they turn right aroind and punish them when showing initiative. I think it was a tank commander trainer that said he doesn't even know what he's there to teach for anyway.
Showing initiative on the field is a different thing than disregarding regulations, not that you'd know fuck all about that.

Showing initiative is repositioning yourself and one other soldier to fend off a flanking attack by yourselves. Disregarding regulations is posting on facebook when your flight home is coming in so you can see that bird get thrashed with rockets as it hits the tarmac. But like I said, not that you'd know anything about that.
Sure you're correct. But part of the Prussian Military Code was being able to tell your chain of command to fuck right off if you felt like it and if you were wrong, paying the price. Americans don't do this and are unable to do this because the Warrior Code of Conflict is simply not instilled at any level thanks to your leftists that you're being all but hurt for cucking to their narrative for right now.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:13 am

The fact that an American General, we're not talking about Corporals here, we're talking about a Leftenant General, JSOC intel director, is so hamstrung with this kind of useless chickenshit, tells you a little why America hasn't won a war in a long time.

If a Lt. General can't call his own shots in the field? Yeah, Houston, we have a problem...
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:20 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote: This tbh. Americans don't even understand third generation warfare let alone fourth. They model themselves after the most successful warfare tactics of the German army where officers have initiative and are encouraged to take it, then they turn right aroind and punish them when showing initiative. I think it was a tank commander trainer that said he doesn't even know what he's there to teach for anyway.
Showing initiative on the field is a different thing than disregarding regulations, not that you'd know fuck all about that.

Showing initiative is repositioning yourself and one other soldier to fend off a flanking attack by yourselves. Disregarding regulations is posting on facebook when your flight home is coming in so you can see that bird get thrashed with rockets as it hits the tarmac. But like I said, not that you'd know anything about that.
Sure you're correct. But part of the Prussian Military Code was being able to tell your chain if command to fuck right off of you felt like it and if you were wrong, paying the price. Americans don't do this and are unable to do this because the Warrior Code of Conflict is simply not instilled at any level thanks to your leftists that you're being all but hurt for cucking to their narrative for right now.
/facepalm.

Shilling for the Prussians that aren't even a state anymore. Seriously. The Germans were defeated, twice. Why are you still carrying their water?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:22 am

Our military modeled themselves after the French during WWI when we were still in second generation warfare and getting our asses handed to us. Towards the end of the war the French progressed along with us into third generation warfare which the Prussian officer core innovated. We are still there but we don't even use the Prussian officer core code. We use second generation warfare officer code.