I agree. Barrack the Agitator in Chief couldn't resist sending the CIA into the Ukraine to get into the middle of regional conflict that ebbs and flows over centuries. It's kind of silly to do anyway, but it's stupid to do when you are engaged in multiple locations all over the middle east.Smitty-48 wrote:Well, this is all just more of the same "ZOMG TRUMP IS NUCLEAR HITLER AND HE WILL START WORLD WAR THREEEEEE!!!! propaganda being spewed by the liberal media, Penner spambot making sure we all get our dose of liberal media pap...
...but again, they are trying to pawn off onto Trump, a level of escalation which was actually incited by their guy; Barack Obama, if the Russians are going to escalate to another level over Trump, they haven't done it yet, this is still status quo from Obama sticking his nose into Ukraine.
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Well, first of all, INF 87' is kind of obsolete, it doesn't really have much operational relevance to the current disposition of forces in Europe, but yes, the Russians are deliberately thumbing their noses at INF 87', in retaliation for the Bushies pulling out of ABM 72', and then the US deploying BMD in Europe, which is deployed by the Aegis BMD squadron in Rota Spain, the Aegis Ashore BMD system in Deveselu Romania, and there will be one in Poland in 2020, but this is all Obama deployments, not Trump.ssu wrote: Well, it's typical that the Russians brake the treaties on arms control that they have agreed on, have done it in the past.
Yet it was typical before that the US responded on these issues at least.
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Breaking Arms deals with the US is not unique to Russia. We could go to war with Iran right now for their violations. We used this Sadaams violation of disarmament under UN resolution 1441 to go into Iraq in 2003.ssu wrote:Well, it's typical that the Russians brake the treaties on arms control that they have agreed on, have done it in the past.Smitty-48 wrote:I think its fair to say that a land based Kh-101/102 is a violation of the INF treaty, and the Viktor Leonov is indeed going to be monitoring submarine traffic coming and going from King's Bay and Groton, but the breathless hysterical Red Scare American Media freak out about all this, particularly on FOX news, is truly farcical, check out these clowns blowing a gasket here, if they huffed and puffed anymore, they'd pass right out...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/15/ru ... ticut.html
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See, the thing is, if the US is going to deploy destabilizing systems like Ballistic Missile Defense and Prompt Global Strike, what have you, all those stabilizing treaties which deescalated the Cold War will be going away, as the Russians are forced back into an arms race to try to offset the American escalation against the status quo, and they will also do things like take Crimea and attack Ukraine, because they assert that the threat in the Black Sea is also related to a US BMD first strike enabler escalation, which, kind of makes their point for them, when the US does actually deploy BMD into Romania.
Just to give you some perspective, deploying that BMD system into the Black Sea, during the Cold War, woud have brought us to the brink of World War Three on the spot, which, is kind of why we had the ABM treaty back in the Cold War.
Just to give you some perspective, deploying that BMD system into the Black Sea, during the Cold War, woud have brought us to the brink of World War Three on the spot, which, is kind of why we had the ABM treaty back in the Cold War.
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We recruited a good one.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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Okeefenokee wrote:We recruited a good one.
I dig that kid. Just watched that a few minutes ago. Have you seen the video where he confronts some people who threatened him? He gives them his address, then breaks out his pistol, hits the slide and dares them to follow through? That was some funny shit.
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Link?Haumana wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:We recruited a good one.
I dig that kid. Just watched that a few minutes ago. Have you seen the video where he confronts some people who threatened him? He gives them his address, then breaks out his pistol, hits the slide and dares them to follow through? That was some funny shit.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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Looking. I can't find the Omegle session where he actually racked the slide and dared the fuckers to show up at his house after giving them his address. It was actually pretty badass because they were totally caught off guard and he was so matter of fact about the whole thing. Back to the digging....Okeefenokee wrote:Link?Haumana wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:We recruited a good one.
I dig that kid. Just watched that a few minutes ago. Have you seen the video where he confronts some people who threatened him? He gives them his address, then breaks out his pistol, hits the slide and dares them to follow through? That was some funny shit.
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Here is the second though.Haumana wrote:Looking. I can't find the Omegle session where he actually racked the slide and dared the fuckers to show up at his house after giving them his address. It was actually pretty badass because they were totally caught off guard and he was so matter of fact about the whole thing. Back to the digging....Okeefenokee wrote:Link?Haumana wrote:
I dig that kid. Just watched that a few minutes ago. Have you seen the video where he confronts some people who threatened him? He gives them his address, then breaks out his pistol, hits the slide and dares them to follow through? That was some funny shit.
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You really get a sense of perspective as to what a fatuous lightweight Justin Trudeau really is, when you see a guy like Bibi Netanyahu spinning it from the podium...
Uh-oh, Palestinians, sounds like America's crazy uncle Donald may be getting set to casually throw your asses under the bus... ah well, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of terrorist darlings of the internationalist Left.
Uh-oh, Palestinians, sounds like America's crazy uncle Donald may be getting set to casually throw your asses under the bus... ah well, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of terrorist darlings of the internationalist Left.
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