I don't like Trump

[Martin Hash]

He seems no worse than you except he’s a motor-mouth. You’ve posted here during your manic cycle, and you’re all over the place, which is entertaining and clever, but if I viewed your posts through a critical lens, I’d fucking prescribe you. And you’re no where near the worst; there are certainly people who post here between medications. We all see it, we all let it slide, because benefit-of-the-doubt, and empathy. I’m sure Trump is on no medications; I can tell by his consistent clinical presentation.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

That is fair, but I would be alarmed by anyone who defended my election to POTUS.

In trivial matters, people whose charm outpaces their talent are just annoying.

We are on the precipice of a depression deeper than we've seen for a hundred years, in the face of a disease that is either deadly as the black plague, or a nothing-burger depending on who you ask, and our ship is helmed by a notorious blowhard.

I am not sure this benefit-of-the-doubt is earned.

(PS: I self medicate with booze and weed like a patriot. No pussy-ass prescriptions.)

[Martin Hash]

If Trump didn’t have such a stellar, I say Meta, track history, and the fact that just about everything he does, I would do, I’d be concerned. But in these aspects at least, he’s better than any past president I’ve known, and especially more competent than Reagan or Bush Jr. Those guys outright scared me.

(p.s. Me too.)

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

At the risk of receiving a clinical TDS diagnosis, I would point out that some METAs are villains.

Trump has a genius for avoiding criticism, but I am not sure that makes him "better" for this crisis. He is unreliable on specifics, even among his most ardent supporters, at a time when specifics matter.

[pineapplemike]

honest question what specifics is he lacking? he has been giving prepared presentations everyday for weeks with numbers of ventilators and tests and all sorts of statistics with other mind numbing information that i've been ignoring in favor of listening to the Q&A sessions with the press like everyone else. idk about you but i'm not looking forward to going back to the old days when the president would only show up periodically and take direct questions from a friendly press once every few months

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I did not think Trump's penchant for exaggeration was controversial. The libtard MSM has been complaining about it, and the independent and reliable pro-Trump commentariat has been presenting it as evidence of his genius at lib-owning, for nigh-on four years.

Even if his COVID specific statements were beyond reproach he is widely regarded as an exaggerator (it is often cited as one of his strengths),so he is percieved as unreliable on specifics.

[heydaralon]

He seems no worse than you except he’s a motor-mouth. You’ve posted here during your manic cycle, and you’re all over the place, which is entertaining and clever, but if I viewed your posts through a critical lens, I’d fucking prescribe you. And you’re no where near the worst; there are certainly people who post here between medications. We all see it, we all let it slide, because benefit-of-the-doubt, and empathy. I’m sure Trump is on no medications; I can tell by his consistent clinical presentation.

I know that you didn't mean me Martin. I don't post bizarre hyperbolic stuff on here ever afaik, and am quite levelheaded

[DBTrek]

Dude, be honest.

Competent governments around the world managed to figure out how to contain and mitigate this disease without mass graves. South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Germany among others.

How did they do that if not "Hillary magic"??? Derp. Maybe strict contact tracing, comprehensive testing, actually effective travel restrictions, and little things like mandatory mask use played a part. Instead Trump gave us the exact opposite of those. His administration would not even allow testing for anybody but travelers and people who were exposed to infected travelers, so the virus spread rampant across the West Coast. We had his CDC scuttle testing efforts and then his FDC actually try to stop private researchers from testing so that Americans could not find out it was spreading until it was too late. He deliberately ordered the CDC to outright lie to the American people about masks because he failed to secure PPE until it was too late. He shut down air travel from Hubei almost a month after the epidemic and there was literally nothing stopping travelers from there going to second stops on the way here to get around it. Italy was clearly in a deadly epidemic of a new mutation of the virus (type c) that was deadlier than the previous two, and he didn't stop air travel from Italy until it was too late. Type c traveled from Italy to New York City and that's why you are seeing mass graves there.

Fucking get a grip you God damned cultist.

I'm not trying to be dishonest, educate me.
How did Trump actively prevent testing?
How do you connect the CDC's incompetence in manufacturing testing kits and handing out advice to Donald J. Trump?

And there are 49 states that aren't going to shit - how is our COVID-19 numbers his fault on account of NY, but the stellar response of the rest of the nation NOT his fault?

Walk me through it.
You clearly know something I don't, so share.

[Speaker to Animals]

Dude, be honest.

Competent governments around the world managed to figure out how to contain and mitigate this disease without mass graves. South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Germany among others.

How did they do that if not "Hillary magic"??? Derp. Maybe strict contact tracing, comprehensive testing, actually effective travel restrictions, and little things like mandatory mask use played a part. Instead Trump gave us the exact opposite of those. His administration would not even allow testing for anybody but travelers and people who were exposed to infected travelers, so the virus spread rampant across the West Coast. We had his CDC scuttle testing efforts and then his FDC actually try to stop private researchers from testing so that Americans could not find out it was spreading until it was too late. He deliberately ordered the CDC to outright lie to the American people about masks because he failed to secure PPE until it was too late. He shut down air travel from Hubei almost a month after the epidemic and there was literally nothing stopping travelers from there going to second stops on the way here to get around it. Italy was clearly in a deadly epidemic of a new mutation of the virus (type c) that was deadlier than the previous two, and he didn't stop air travel from Italy until it was too late. Type c traveled from Italy to New York City and that's why you are seeing mass graves there.

Fucking get a grip you God damned cultist.

I'm not trying to be dishonest, educate me.
How did Trump actively prevent testing?
How do you connect the CDC's incompetence in manufacturing testing kits and handing out advice to Donald J. Trump?

And there are 49 states that aren't going to shit - how is our COVID-19 numbers his fault on account of NY, but the stellar response of the rest of the nation NOT his fault?

Walk me through it.
You clearly know something I don't, so share.

I just laid it out for you. I don't know what else you want. The CDC and FDC literally tried to shut down private testing. The reason we found out about community spread in the United States was because a researcher in Seattle had all these samples from her influenza study and she told the Trump administration to go fuck a stick when they ordered her to stop testing.

The reason NYC is digging mass graves right now is because nobody wanted to shut down precious airline travel and the deadliest variant spread from Italy.

This guy then has the audacity to claim the lack of testing was the fault of our state governments. But testing is controlled by the CDC and the FDC. If the FDC refused to approve new tests, and the CDC refused to manufacture more tests, and the CDC made restrictions for access to those tests so severe that it literally prevented any community spread from being detected, then it's not the states' fault. That's the federal government's fault. That's Trump's fault. The buck stops at his desk.

Do you remember the mask debacle? His administration waited too long to secure the PPE we would need to fight this disease. Instead of just going on television and admitting they fucked up, he ordered his bureaucrats to go out there and lie to the American people about how masks are not effective and Americans should just turn them into the authorities. Who in their right mind would trust these people ever again? What kind of asshole do you have to be to vote for somebody who fucked up this badly?

I will literally vote for the coronavirus before I vote for any of these fucking people.

[Speaker to Animals]

So here are the states early-April with no PPE (nurses literally wearing bags on their heads to prevent catching a deadly virus), no tests, nada. Trump's admin is making it impossible to get those things. Then he says it's really their responsibility to get all that stuff. Okay. Fine. Fuck Trump, let's get our own shit, right? Fucking wrong. Trump then confiscates all their PPE equipment. The governor of Illinois literally had to smuggle PPE to Illinois and hid them in hospitals and warehouses around the state so that the Trump administration could not steal them. That's where we are right now and I definitely am not rewarding this shit. You do you and I will do me.