Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:27 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:19 am
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Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:13 am
Read my quote you fucking melon head.
Do you actually believe that armies act and support themselves alone? Regardless of the support from the population?

Do you think they’d have survived fighting the other colonists AND the British?
They literally had to fight other colonists.

How can you be so God damned wrong all the time?

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Fife » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:31 am

zero.two

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:34 am

The percentages TC posted are pretty close to what I've concluded from many sources. Though there is disagreement on the numbers.

80 American Colonists in Parkers Company stood against Pitcairns force of 1500 in Lexington and strung out on the road; and the Colonists had approximately 4,000 roused in the countryside that night. Once the fighting started, and the Brits started their retreat they were hounded all the way back to Boston throughout the day of April 19th. By the morning of April 20th, 15,000 Colonists from all over New England had put the British under siege.


It's clear by the results in the first 24hrs that there was widespread support for rebellion. The British were amazed at the logistics ability of the Colonists throughout the first days fighting. That logistical capability came from widespread local support.


Interesting to note. The Colonists had basically no political support in the Continental Congress for the first 3-6 months. In fact the Congress sent a boot licking Oops Letter to King George called the Olvie Branch petition http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond ... -text.html
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:44 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:27 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:19 am
Okeefenokee wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:13 am
Read my quote you fucking melon head.
Do you actually believe that armies act and support themselves alone? Regardless of the support from the population?

Do you think they’d have survived fighting the other colonists AND the British?
They literally had to fight other colonists.

How can you be so God damned wrong all the time?
Here's the difference. There was almost no support for the Crown in the countryside, and widespread support for the Crown in the urban areas. It was a pretty classic Insurgency. The major powers are able to control all the primary Urban centers and the Insurgents control the countryside. No one thinks the Continental Army wintered in Valley Forge in huts and tents for the scenery do they?

Pretty good numbers here
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-r ... 1600199390
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:45 am

Small minority.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:56 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:45 am
Small minority.
Of what ?
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:02 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:56 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:45 am
Small minority.
Of what ?
Exactly.

I’ve been arguing against the notion that some small pocket of rebellion was responsible for the entire Revolution.

Which came about because I stated that I wouldn’t be the first agitator in a social movement, and was called a coward for it.

Which came about because virtue larping is the latest internet fad among disaffected veterans.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:05 am

Yeah, I am sure the zero-twos of the era stopped sucking British cock and helped out.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:07 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:05 am
Yeah, I am sure the zero-twos of the era stopped sucking British cock and helped out.
Nobody counts except the guys firing weapons and marching. They did it all alone. Everybody else just watched from home.

Jesus.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Haumana » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:16 am

What a brutal thread to catch up on. Another weird hill, same flounder flopping.