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by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:51 am
clubgop wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:TheReal_ND wrote:Concerning the concentration camps, many Jews died. But so would have our Japanese camp population if we lost the ability to feed them and the camps were overrun by disease. Hitler preferred to relocate them to begin with before the war even started. Once it got underway he couldn't have them about freely as a subversive element. His memory of WWI wouldn't permit that.
This is a valid point. I don't know if it's true, but that has happened in American history. One hundred fifty years later, and almost no one knows that the story of Wirz they learned in school was made up, and that he was railroaded to provide a scapegoat.
Henry Wirz's trial and execution created a lasting controversy.
It started when it was disclosed that the star witness for the prosecution worked for the Interior Department and that he had perjured himself at the trial. He was not Felix de la Baume from France, but Felix Oeser born in the 1840s in Saxony, which was a part of the German Confederation at the time, and was actually a deserter from the 7th New York Volunteers.[28] The Washington Evening Star published on November 27, 1865 the following, "The German witness Beaume, who figured extensively in the Wirz trial, has been dismissed from the Interior Department, it having been shown that he was a deserter from the 7th New York (Steuben) regiment. His real name is Felix Oessel."
During and after the trial Wirz was reviled in the court of public opinion as The Demon of Andersonville.[31] After time passed, some writers suggested Wirz's tribunal was unfair and claimed that, "Wirz did not receive a fair trial. Nevertheless, he was found guilty and sentenced to death."[32] Even a few of
his former prisoners conceded during the trial that the little support Wirz received from the Confederate government in terms of food, water and medical supplies made the conditions at Andersonville beyond his scope of responsibility. In 1980, historian Morgan D. Peoples referred to Wirz as a "scapegoat".[33] Wirz's conviction remains controversial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wirz
When I researched this for a history paper about eight years ago, this was not on the page.
Sorry not sorry. Don't do shit like that and lose. There is no substitute for victory.
So let's just kangaroo court thousands of former adversaries and hang them because they hurt our feelings.
Unprecedented.
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:53 am
Martin Hash wrote:So next time, let's see how wearing a BLM hat to a KKK rally works out? Fuckers get a beat down, that's on them I guess.
Hashie goes Brutus "the barber" Beefcake on Dirty dick. Dayyum
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:57 am
TheReal_ND wrote:clubgop wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:
This is a valid point. I don't know if it's true, but that has happened in American history. One hundred fifty years later, and almost no one knows that the story of Wirz they learned in school was made up, and that he was railroaded to provide a scapegoat.
When I researched this for a history paper about eight years ago, this was not on the page.
Sorry not sorry. Don't do shit like that and lose. There is no substitute for victory.
So let's just kangaroo court thousands of former adversaries and hang them because they hurt our feelings.
Unprecedented.
Huh, not so much. Nuremberg, Yugoslavia, Rwanda. I mean fuck.
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by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:00 am
For Western Europeans it was.
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:10 am
TheReal_ND wrote:For Western Europeans it was.
Relative peace and prosperity is a bitch.
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by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:11 am
Tell that to the Jews back then in Weimar Germany.
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:49 am
Fife wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm living a computer simulation. Can somebody download the SexBot app for me?
The first couple of generations are going to suck, in bad ways, the experience will be porn induced ED writ large. We are going to have our penises burnt to a cinge or grounded into dust.
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:51 am
TheReal_ND wrote:Tell that to the Jews back then in Weimar Germany.
What?
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by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:57 am
What? You think Hitler just woke up one day hating the Jewish bolsheviks? You think he managed to single handedly turn the entire country around and rally to him minus an animus surrounding the commies and Jews that were fucking them over under the judiciary of the Anglos and Franks?
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by clubgop » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:02 am
LVH2 wrote:But if they were chilling in NY, eating nice pieces of fish and complaining about their doctors, rather than coming out of mass extermination, would the Brits and whoever else thought it was reasonable to boot the Palestinians and establish a homeland?
Lot of assumptions there. Nazi's don't invest all those resources into their final solution who knows what they would be capable of. Britain holding on to Palestine, iffy, Rommel getting tossed from Africa, iffy. Sicily, iffy.