THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Speaker to Animals]

Well, that was the statute that the Trump Admin. relied on in the order, so you wouldn't need to re-write it unless you just wanted to emphasize the source of his authority. Yesssss! Of course, a federal statute cannot contravene the Constitution, including the Due Process Clause. That seem to have been the sticking point before the 9th Circuit.

There's where they lose me. The Due Process Clause(s) only apply to US citizens, or, more broadly, people who are at least on US soil (wet foot, dry foot.) Unless, or perhaps because this is all purely political--*cough*--it's utter nonsense. How many assholes does it take to get/lift a temporary ban on a temporary ban? This is what they want to argue about?
"Keep signing shit, Mr. President--they're still catching up--'Rip Van Winkle!' Very funny Mr. President. Yes, we've had the constitutional toilet paper prepared for the correspondents' ball--are we still having that?"

If you're really interested in understanding things better, I would urge you to read the 9th circuit's opinion. It's really not that long or complicated.

Remember when I told you this legal wrangling all seems quite odious to about half of the American population? This is one of those cases.

If letting foreigners in here on a visa for just one day means we can't send any of them back, even when their demographic represents a threat to our people, or we don't really have the jobs to spare and the welfare funds to spend on them, then we should just close immigration down completely.

This type of legal bullshit is what makes me want to shut down the entire federal government and start over.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Steve Bannon’s past careers continue to be the gift that keeps on giving; we’ve previously reported on the top presidential adviser and Darth Vader fanboy’s attempts to break into the world of rap musicals and heavy-handed science fiction. Now, Boing Boing has dug up a Wired article from last year, revealing that one of Bannon’s old jobs was as CEO of a gold-farming company in World Of Warcraft.

http://www.avclub.com/article/steve-ban ... rmi-250081

lol

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a prejudice among the current political class against people who've played video games? If that's true, does the prejudice make any sense?

Gold-farming has nothing to do with 'playing video games'. It's an exploitation scheme.
Basically, hiring a team of people to repetitively click on things to generate in-game money, then selling it to actual players for real money.

[Fife]

I'd have my boys and girls rewrite the order directly quoting that bit of US code which basically says:
"The president can ban entry to the US any alien at anytime for any reason."
Maybe add a little tongue sticking out emoji by his signature.

United States Code: Title 8: Chapter 12: Subchapter 2: Part 2: § 1182

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Well, that was the statute that the Trump Admin. relied on in the order, so you wouldn't need to re-write it unless you just wanted to emphasize the source of his authority. Of course, a federal statute cannot contravene the Constitution, including the Due Process Clause. That seem to have been the sticking point before the 9th Circuit.

Yes, that's what it seems to have been the sticking point. "Seems to have been," because they couldn't be bothered to discuss, or even cite, the statute in the per curiam opinion.

I got a chuckle out of Scott Johnson's description: "a farrago of nonsense" http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... f-here.php

[Penner]

Sources have reported that Trump had paused a call from Putin, where Putin wanted to extend the New START treaty, and have his aides explain to him what it was:

In his first call as president with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump denounced a treaty that caps U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads as a bad deal for the United States, according to two U.S. officials and one former U.S. official with knowledge of the call.

When Putin raised the possibility of extending the 2010 treaty, known as New START, Trump paused to ask his aides in an aside what the treaty was, these sources said.

Trump then told Putin the treaty was one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration, saying that New START favored Russia. Trump also talked about his own popularity, the sources said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... ium=Social

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

Sources?
They don't even bother saying sources close to the administration anymore?
Sources who asked to retain their identities due to privacy concerns?
My brother's ex-girlfriend's sister said....
It's just sources now?

[Penner]

That is really no different on how the press reported in the past. I am sure once ll Trump finds this source he will purge it from his administration ( by firing him/her)- so this is just a way to protect your soucers so the press can report on more insane and inane things Trump will say and do in the near future.

[Okeefenokee]

Sources have reported that Trump had paused a call from Putin, where Putin wanted to extend the New START treaty, and have his aides explain to him what it was:

In his first call as president with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump denounced a treaty that caps U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads as a bad deal for the United States, according to two U.S. officials and one former U.S. official with knowledge of the call.

When Putin raised the possibility of extending the 2010 treaty, known as New START, Trump paused to ask his aides in an aside what the treaty was, these sources said.

Trump then told Putin the treaty was one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration, saying that New START favored Russia. Trump also talked about his own popularity, the sources said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... ium=Social

Oh, look. It's a day that ends in Y. That means Penner is posting more fake news from unnamed sources.

[StCapps]

Oh, look. It's a day that ends in Y. That means Penner is posting more fake news from unnamed sources.

All her favorite sources are unnamed. Anytime an unnamed source says that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about and his advisers are constantly saving him from his own idiocy then the Penner thinks "THEY MUST BE ACCURATE!" and has to tell everyone on the forum about it because she is just so concerned. They say the shit about Trump that fits her confirmation bias about him the most, so she believes it.

She has become a FAKE NEWS parrot even more so since the end of the DCF, and I'm not sure whether I should be annoyed or entertained by that development.

[Smitty-48]

I would submit; New START actually favours the United States, as it is primarily focussed on ICBM's/SLBM's, which Russia is heavily reliant upon, but treats strategic bombers as "one warhead" when they can actually carry dozens, and it doesn't cover tactical weapons such as B61 and Nuclear Tomahawk at all, which are the weapons the United States is most likely to employ, from SSN's, SSGN's, B-52's, B-1's, B-2's, and the forthcoming F-35's and B-21's.

The United States is extremely unlikely to employ Minuteman III for anything other than launch-on-warning, when the advantage the United States would be seeking would actually be counterforce, and in terms of counterforce, New START blunts the Russian retaliatory capability while not restricting US offensive capabilities at all.

Under New START, the United States could employ the maximum number of Trident II's with the maximum number of W76 MIRV's from the SSBN's, along with the B61's and GM-109's from SSN's, bombers and fighters, and not use ICBM's at all, which is the only realistic American nuclear war scenario short of launch-on-warning.

[de officiis]

Remember when I told you this legal wrangling all seems quite odious to about half of the American population? This is one of those cases.

If letting foreigners in here on a visa for just one day means we can't send any of them back, even when their demographic represents a threat to our people, or we don't really have the jobs to spare and the welfare funds to spend on them, then we should just close immigration down completely.

This type of legal bullshit is what makes me want to shut down the entire federal government and start over.

And it's equally true that there's a substantial number of folks who care about seeing that the Constitution isn't violated. To my thinking, that's a little more substantial than some "legal wrangling." Had Trump taken the time to have the OLC review the order, I'm fairly sure he wouldn't be in this bind.

I would add that he's already talking about amending the order.