BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

[Speaker to Animals]

If we make guns illegal, it will only drive men to dangerous back alley gun dealers.

Zing!

[Fife]

If we make guns illegal, it will only drive men to dangerous back alley gun dealers.

[Smitty-48]

223 is large caliber in bong land

FMJ armor-piercing enhancements in the coding while in bong city zone.

Reminds me of a post the wife of my old boss made, like two weeks after she posted a picture of a raccoon she shot with her .22 bolt action that was raiding her garden, after the FL shooting she posts how "we need to ban 'high caliber' guns"... I had to reply that, uh, the AR he used was pretty much the same "caliber" (.22 vs .223), they're different in the casing and power (grains of powder) but not much in caliber. Told her if she wants to have an intelligent debate about guns she should really learn and use the correct terminology, otherwise she's gonna be taken as just another liberal idiot. (She kinda is anyways )

Ahr, well...

.22LR is maximum 30gr, 191 lb-ft at 1600 ft/s

.223R is maximum 77gr, 1293 lb-ft at 2750 ft/s

So, .223 is twice the caliber by mass, moving almost twice as fast, delivering more than six times the energy.

[Fife]

"Caliber" has a dictionary definition, so does "energy," last time I checked.

Soccer-mom scary-word vocabulary doesn't befit a military mind; last time I checked.

[Smitty-48]

Saying that .223 is "like a .22", that's either misinformed, or disengenous, best not to argue on those terms, it's better just to point out that the run o' the mill hunting rifle is .308, which makes the AR look like a pop gun.

[Smitty-48]

And by the way, no, "caliber" does not just refer to bore diameter, caliber can refer to other aspects, so for example, with a howitzer, the bore diameter is read in milimeters, but the caliber refers to barrel length, so for example, 155mm/52 caliber is a bigger gun than 155mm/39 caliber.

[Fife]

That's my point, Smits. No need to be confrontational just for the fun of it; unless of course you want to. As per the usual, I'm game.

When I was a kid, soccer moms name-checked "high-powered rifles." Nowadays, it's either "high-caliber" or "assault weapon" rifles. Same-same. 2+2=5

[Speaker to Animals]

Or as Monty says it: "high-powered, dangerous assault weapons".

He apparently has not yet learned about murder bullets.

[Smitty-48]

That's my point, Smits. No need to be confrontational just for the fun of it; unless of course you want to. As per the usual, I'm game.

When I was a kid, soccer moms name-checked "high-powered rifles." Nowadays, it's either "high-caliber" or "assault weapon" rifles. Same-same. 2+2=5

No confrontation intended, just clarifying, wasn't sure what you were saying, as you didn't make your point clearly and concisely, as per usual

[Fife]

And by the way, no, "caliber" does not just refer to bore diameter, caliber can refer to other aspects, so for example, with a howitzer, the bore diameter is read in milimeters, but the caliber refers to barrel length, so for example, 155mm/52 caliber is a bigger gun than 155mm/39 caliber.

Yeah, "caliber" has lots of dictionary definitions. To you, there are many varied and subtle meanings that make sense. Soccer moms only use the term a blunt-force object to smash reason and conversation.

You're not a soccer mom though; even though you sometimes talk like one. :goteam: :drunk: