And another one bites the dust...

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:33 am

DBTrek wrote:Nothing screams innocence like killing yourself in the wake of accusations.


'Kind, funny and bright' student, 17, hanged himself after being falsely accused of rape and finding it 'difficult to cope with the investigation'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -rape.html


This one had some follow-up joy:

Heartbroken mother, 55, of teenager who hanged himself over false rape allegations kills herself after first anniversary of his death because she ‘couldn’t see a future without him’



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-him.html


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Post by DBTrek » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:35 am

Does the kid look innocent because he killed himself after being accused, or because the accuser later dropped charges?

Clearly the latter.
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Post by C-Mag » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:47 pm

Tavis Smiley pledges to fight back......... his statement
PBS launched a so-called investigation of me without ever informing me. I learned of the investigation when former staffers started contacting me to share the uncomfortable experience of receiving a phone call from a stranger asking whether, I had ever done anything to make them uncomfortable, and if they could provide other names of persons to call. After 14 seasons, that’s how I learned of this inquiry, from the streets.
Only after being threatened with a lawsuit, did PBS investigators reluctantly agree to interview me for three hours.
If having a consensual relationship with a colleague years ago is the stuff that leads to this kind of public humiliation and personal destruction, heaven help us. The PBS investigators refused to review any of my personal documentation, refused to provide me the names of any accusers, refused to speak to my current staff, and refused to provide me any semblance of due process to defend myself against allegations from unknown sources. Their mind was made up. Almost immediately following the meeting, this story broke in Varietyas an “exclusive.” Indeed, I learned more about these allegations reading the Variety story than the PBS investigator shared with me, the accused, in our 3 hour face to face meeting.
My attorneys were sent a formal letter invoking a contractual provision to not distribute my programming, and that was it.
Put simply, PBS overreacted and conducted a biased and sloppy investigation, which led to a rush to judgment, and trampling on a reputation that I have spent an entire lifetime trying to establish.
This has gone too far. And, I, for one, intend to fight back.
It’s time for a real conversation in America, so men and women know how to engage in the workplace. I look forward to actively participating in that conversation.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by ooky » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:49 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:I don't find Dwayne Johnson to be intimidating, I'm quite confident that could kill him with my bare hands, wrestling is show biz, not unarmed combat.

He'd be screaming like a little girl, after I gouged the eyeballs out of his head.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by ooky » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:02 pm

Despite the drive by some to make this moment all about "gynocentrism", I'd like to post this here to illustrate what I think this cultural moment is really more about.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... stein.html

This amazing op-ed by Salma Hayek is some of my favorite writing on the subject because the sexual harassment she endured is actually not the focus of the piece. It is the fact that after repeatedly refusing Weinstein's advances, he made it abundantly clear that career opportunities she had been promised by him were no longer on the table. To avoid obvious quid pro quo sexual harassment, he then allowed her to get back her own work that she had provided to him if she basically jumped over a set of impossible hurdles, which she did. Then he set about making her and her female director's lives miserable on the project, and how tough they had to be to get through all the damage he kept doing to the project (which he later made tons of money on). But it shows how this comes part and parcel with an abuse of power by these types of garbage men that can have severe, on-going, and lasting effects on women, and forces them to do more to be seen as less,or simply to be seen as any amount of talent rather than just a body.

She also writes really well about how she also covered for him, because he had so much power over her and she actually need what little support she could get from him, as did many other women in the industry, and how the culture of this puts pressure on us all, including victims and non-garbage men, to cover up and smooth things over for the men who act this way, or allow other to just not notice. She also is careful to note that he had good qualities too - intelligence and talent, and was sometimes kind. The fact that these guys treat different people differently, or act differently at different times, or simply are not one-dimensional monsters so they CAN fly under the radar of those they don't directly victimize, is an important point.

I find it very credible that Trump is in this exact vein - I am sure he also hates to be told "no" more than anything, and not just about sexual advances.

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:10 pm

ooky wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't find Dwayne Johnson to be intimidating, I'm quite confident that could kill him with my bare hands, wrestling is show biz, not unarmed combat.

He'd be screaming like a little girl, after I gouged the eyeballs out of his head.
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If you think pampered Hollywood movie stars are an archetypal lethal threat in close quarters combat, that is what's laughable, clearly you can't distinguish been show business and the real deal, he plays a tough guy on screen, but IRL, he's a big softie, never mind that he wouldn't actually threaten anybody at work in the USA, because that's how you get shot. /shrug
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:15 pm

ooky wrote:Despite the drive by some to make this moment all about "gynocentrism", I'd like to post this here to illustrate what I think this cultural moment is really more about. . . .

I find it very credible that Trump is in this exact vein - I am sure he also hates to be told "no" more than anything, and not just about sexual advances.
. . . .And we all went into immediate cardiac arrest when ooky managed to make Salma Hayek's sexual exploitation at the hands of Harvey Weinstein somehow about Trump.

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:42 pm

ooky wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't find Dwayne Johnson to be intimidating, I'm quite confident that could kill him with my bare hands, wrestling is show biz, not unarmed combat.

He'd be screaming like a little girl, after I gouged the eyeballs out of his head.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:49 pm

Frankly, Rainn Wilson offers the plausibly greater threat, as he owns two Pit Bulls, whereas the Rock owns French Bulldogs, if Rainn Wilson sics his dogs on you, you're probably gonna need a gun to stop them.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:51 pm

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