Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

[Smitty-48]

Compare Trump with Paul. Trump is orders of magnitude better than what we would have gotten with Hillary; but how am I supposed to trust anything he says? At least Hillary was a transparent war-monger.

What are you, a fuckin' Quaker? It's America, Hippie Jim, there's gonna be some fuckin' wars, get over it already.

[jediuser598]

As far as I know, no one has been charged with a crime regarding the Russian meddling. Here's the problem, it's an inside the family outside the family sort of thing. If Americans are digging up dirt on their opponents on their own, then sure whatever, (as long as they're doing it legally) if they're receiving, or actively seeking outside help, then that's another. Take this to its logical conclusion for future elections. In the future, candidates will seek the help of foreign intelligence agencies in order to win elections. In return those candidates are going to have to make those foreign entities promises, some policy or legislation that will benefit those countries. Foreign governments now see (more than it already is) the American government for sale to the highest bidder. Suddenly there's a China sponsored candidate versus a Russian sponsored candidate versus an European union sponsored candidate.

And Republicans are like, "Well, there's nothing wrong with that, nothing to see here, move along."

Is there any dispute as to whether or not Russia meddled in our election? I'd say there isn't, now the dispute is to whether or not Trump actively sought out the help or entertained offers of help from Russia and/or their agents.

[Speaker to Animals]

So, taking your ridiculous conspiracy theory as fact, the Russians did to the democrats what the democrats have been doing to the Russians (i.e. Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) and only now it's suddenly a problem.

Then without a shred of material or technical evidence you guys obsess over this conspiracy theory for months, shedding rational voters every single day.

You almost handed the GOP the ability to actually end the federal government. They are literally one state away from having that power. Keep up the good work, I guess.

[Smitty-48]

Well, first of all, the Left is perfectly happy to have the American intelligence agencies interfere with the political process, through spying on the Republicans and selectively leaking intelligence to the press, they don't see a problem with it, "cause Trump", so I have no time for the whining from the Left about dirty tricks, because they only see the dirty tricks of their ideological opponents, the dirty tricks of their ideological interests, that they ignore, thus, let them burn in a fire of their own making, because I think it's all going to come back to haunt them, what Susan Rice and Co was doing to try to stop Trump, the Republicans are going to do on steroids, and you know, since the Lefties are hyprocrites about it, just desserts.

As for the Russians? I don't see their "meddling" as having any significant effects, that's basically just the Democrats making up excuses for why Hillary was such a flop.

[Smitty-48]

See, what I like about Roger Stone, is that he doesn't get up on his moralizing high horse and try to shine people on as if dirty tricks are not part of the game and always have been, everybody is using dirty tricks, the Democrat White House, the DNC, and even the RNC, were using the NSA, weaponized against the Trumo campaign, to try to stop him at any cost, so even if the Trump campaign employed a foreign intelligence service to try to even up against that, I just see that as turn around is fair play, when NSA and CIA and FBI are removed from the process, then I might be more critical, but since the Establishment is illegally and unconsitutionally weaponizing the IC to try to win elections, I got no time for their blubbeing now, about "interference from intelligence", they're just whining cause they got beat at their own game.

[jediuser598]

So, taking your ridiculous conspiracy theory as fact, the Russians did to the democrats what the democrats have been doing to the Russians (i.e. Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) and only now it's suddenly a problem.

Then without a shred of material or technical evidence you guys obsess over this conspiracy theory for months, shedding rational voters every single day.

You almost handed the GOP the ability to actually end the federal government. They are literally one state away from having that power. Keep up the good work, I guess.

Who is "you guys?" I'm speaking as an American. Are you? You ok with foreign nations meddling in our elections? Guess what, both Republicans and Democrats don't like that, which made them pass a new round of sanctions on Russia.

Sure you could argue that it's just deserts, which I wouldn't disagree with, but you really arguing that it's a-ok with you? That America should take no action in response to Russian meddling? Further, do you have a short memory or something? Here's a Fox News account of what's going on:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08 ... -know.html

At least congress has a few conservatives around that don't take kindly to other nations fucking with our elections.

[Speaker to Animals]

So, taking your ridiculous conspiracy theory as fact, the Russians did to the democrats what the democrats have been doing to the Russians (i.e. Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) and only now it's suddenly a problem.

Then without a shred of material or technical evidence you guys obsess over this conspiracy theory for months, shedding rational voters every single day.

You almost handed the GOP the ability to actually end the federal government. They are literally one state away from having that power. Keep up the good work, I guess.

Who is "you guys?" I'm speaking as an American. Are you? You ok with foreign nations meddling in our elections? Guess what, both Republicans and Democrats don't like that, which made them pass a new round of sanctions on Russia.

Sure you could argue that it's just deserts, which I wouldn't disagree with, but you really arguing that it's a-ok with you? That America should take no action in response to Russian meddling? Further, do you have a short memory or something? Here's a Fox News account of what's going on:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08 ... -know.html

At least congress has a few conservatives around that don't take kindly to other nations fucking with our elections.

Are you an American? You guys like to use that term when it suits you to try to bully people into caving into your ridiculous demands, but then we see you burning American flags everywhere, talking shit about America all the time, and attacking people for exercising their constitutional rights, so forgive me if I assume you are full of poop.

[Smitty-48]

"Russia meddling! Russia meddling!! Russia meddling!!!" lol.

[jediuser598]

So, taking your ridiculous conspiracy theory as fact, the Russians did to the democrats what the democrats have been doing to the Russians (i.e. Ukraine, Georgia, etc.) and only now it's suddenly a problem.

Then without a shred of material or technical evidence you guys obsess over this conspiracy theory for months, shedding rational voters every single day.

You almost handed the GOP the ability to actually end the federal government. They are literally one state away from having that power. Keep up the good work, I guess.

Who is "you guys?" I'm speaking as an American. Are you? You ok with foreign nations meddling in our elections? Guess what, both Republicans and Democrats don't like that, which made them pass a new round of sanctions on Russia.

Sure you could argue that it's just deserts, which I wouldn't disagree with, but you really arguing that it's a-ok with you? That America should take no action in response to Russian meddling? Further, do you have a short memory or something? Here's a Fox News account of what's going on:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08 ... -know.html

At least congress has a few conservatives around that don't take kindly to other nations fucking with our elections.

Are you an American? You guys like to use that term when it suits you to try to bully people into caving into your ridiculous demands, but then we see you burning American flags everywhere, talking shit about America all the time, and attacking people for exercising their constitutional rights, so forgive me if I assume you are full of poop.

So you're ok with foreign states meddling in our elections?

And are you new or something? You not know about Gamergate? I oppose SJW's at every turn.

Second, no I'd never burn an American flag, but I support other's rights to do so. Members of Antifa who assault other people need to be arrested and tried for their crimes. Do you support people's rights to burn our flag?

[jediuser598]

"Russia meddling! Russia meddling!! Russia meddling!!!" lol.

You Canadians are like our ward, you do what America says and you like it, otherwise without us you lose all of your socialism. America subsidizes all of it. Poke us all you want, we'll still pay your bills for some reason.