End of “The Church”

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:09 am

"If you restrict priests from sex with adults they will turn gay and rape teen boys."

"It's totally not a homosexual problem"

Pick only one.

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:17 am

It's a homosexual problem because pedophiles (almost always...but not always) are homosexuals....

99.9% of gays aren't pedophiles....but I bet 98% of pedophiles are gay....

Church should not turn it's back on Gays....but it needs to have a purging of Pedophiles....and I hate to say it....probably watch gay priests very closely as its far more likely for a gay priest to be a pedophile than a heterosexual priest.

It's like looking for Sickle Cell patients...you watch blacks...not whites...

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by BjornP » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:52 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

In most regions of the world girls, not boys, make up the majority of victims of pedophilia.
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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am

We are not really talking about pedophilia. It's actually pederasty. And homosexuals, while not the predominate abusers, are many times more likely to be perpetrators than heterosexuals.

Pedophilia is a completely different problem from pederasty.

There are pedophiles in the Catholic Church, but the rates are pretty low. Most of these incidents were perpetrated by homosexual men against pubescent boys.

It's very clearly a homosexual problem, and that's galling considering the fact that men with same-sex attraction are not supposed to become priests at all.

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:08 am

I know its not a direct correlation but if the Catholic Church allowed priest to marry I think they'd at least have a pool of people that would improve the situation some and if nothing else it helps the optics regardless of how related it actually is. Plus priest had wives for the first couple hundred years of the church so yeah its possible. I would be going to seminary school for a more meaningful career potentially.
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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:08 am
I know its not a direct correlation but if the Catholic Church allowed priest to marry I think they'd at least have a pool of people that would improve the situation some and if nothing else it helps the optics regardless of how related it actually is. Plus priest had wives for the first couple hundred years of the church so yeah its possible. I would be going to seminary school for a more meaningful career potentially.
I think that is completely irrelevant. Normal people are celebate all across society a d are not driven to rape boys.

If you look at the John Jay Report (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jay_Report) you will see the truth in the numbers.
67.4% of the victims were above the age of 12 (puberty). The vast majority of those victims were male, and all the perpetrators were male.

This rapist cardinal we just found out was protected and elevated by Francis was a homosexual. He had plenty of sex with grown men. The priests he advised Francis to make bishops are homosexuals. They have boyfriends.

These characters are not celebate and never had any intention of being so. So it's not really a valid criticism at all.

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Hastur » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 am

Just defrock and kick out the pederasts. Should have started generations ago.
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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:18 am

Hastur wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 am
Just defrock and kick out the pederasts. Should have started generations ago.
The homosexual subculture reaches all the way to the Papacy now. It's not about just defrocking bad priests, but outright war within the Church to drive the apostasy out.

And I am not saying homosexuals don't belong I the Church as laity. This powerful secret faction of them that now infests the Church, however, are very evil men. We are not talking about the gay dude you see at the dog park every few days. These are really evil people.

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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:36 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:08 am
I know its not a direct correlation but if the Catholic Church allowed priest to marry I think they'd at least have a pool of people that would improve the situation some and if nothing else it helps the optics regardless of how related it actually is. Plus priest had wives for the first couple hundred years of the church so yeah its possible. I would be going to seminary school for a more meaningful career potentially.
I think that is completely irrelevant. Normal people are celebate all across society a d are not driven to rape boys.

If you look at the John Jay Report (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jay_Report) you will see the truth in the numbers.
67.4% of the victims were above the age of 12 (puberty). The vast majority of those victims were male, and all the perpetrators were male.

This rapist cardinal we just found out was protected and elevated by Francis was a homosexual. He had plenty of sex with grown men. The priests he advised Francis to make bishops are homosexuals. They have boyfriends.

These characters are not celebate and never had any intention of being so. So it's not really a valid criticism at all.
I think its unrelated as well as causation but what about optics? Does it help it if you changed the availability of priest? The Church has a lack of priests. This could help that to.
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Re: End of “The Church”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:36 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:08 am
I know its not a direct correlation but if the Catholic Church allowed priest to marry I think they'd at least have a pool of people that would improve the situation some and if nothing else it helps the optics regardless of how related it actually is. Plus priest had wives for the first couple hundred years of the church so yeah its possible. I would be going to seminary school for a more meaningful career potentially.
I think that is completely irrelevant. Normal people are celebate all across society a d are not driven to rape boys.

If you look at the John Jay Report (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jay_Report) you will see the truth in the numbers.
67.4% of the victims were above the age of 12 (puberty). The vast majority of those victims were male, and all the perpetrators were male.

This rapist cardinal we just found out was protected and elevated by Francis was a homosexual. He had plenty of sex with grown men. The priests he advised Francis to make bishops are homosexuals. They have boyfriends.

These characters are not celebate and never had any intention of being so. So it's not really a valid criticism at all.
I think its unrelated as well as causation but what about optics? Does it help it if you changed the availability of priest? The Church has a lack of priests. This could help that to.
Looking at Protestant churches, I'd say married priests would be a net negative.

Celebacy leads to holiness in general as well. Few saints were married. St. Augustine had to give up the trim to become a saint, for instance. He could have married, but he did not. He even gave up his most beloved mistress.

These men who committed these crimes I doubt were ever celebate. Celebacy is a non-issue the left brings up because their degeneracy causes them to find it unthinkable, while at the same time they desperately want to deflect from the consequences of that degeneracy (homosexuals raping teen boys in this case).