Turtles vs. people with disabilities: The straw ban

Ph64
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Re: Turtles vs. people with disabilities: The straw ban

Post by Ph64 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:49 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:38 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:32 pm
It could be hilarious, but sticking a needle into a turtle in California is probably more severe a crime than infecting a human with the same HIV.
In CA it is.
Luckily for the turtle diseases like HIV are pretty specific. I had two cats infected with FIV (feline version), it's not transmissible to humans. The vet explained because she worried, apparently some people would immediately put their pet down upon finding out. The other two I had at the time never got it, and the two that did lived reasonably long/normal lives (both died from cancer, but no different in age from other cats I've lost). So quite likely an HIV infected needle wouldn't hurt the turtle - though not sure about hepatitis or other potential things.

(Apparently there is BIV as well, bovine (cows). Nothing for dogs (CIV?) has been positively identified get though).

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Re: Turtles vs. people with disabilities: The straw ban

Post by The Conservative » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:59 am

Ph64 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:49 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:38 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:32 pm
It could be hilarious, but sticking a needle into a turtle in California is probably more severe a crime than infecting a human with the same HIV.
In CA it is.
Luckily for the turtle diseases like HIV are pretty specific. I had two cats infected with FIV (feline version), it's not transmissible to humans. The vet explained because she worried, apparently some people would immediately put their pet down upon finding out. The other two I had at the time never got it, and the two that did lived reasonably long/normal lives (both died from cancer, but no different in age from other cats I've lost). So quite likely an HIV infected needle wouldn't hurt the turtle - though not sure about hepatitis or other potential things.

(Apparently there is BIV as well, bovine (cows). Nothing for dogs (CIV?) has been positively identified get though).
The point is, California reduced significantly the laws when it came to knowingly infect a person with HIV using a needle.

But if you did the same thing to an animal, you'd be one step under the death penalty there.
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