Stop apologizing for not being a liberal

[Hwen Hoshino]

A libertarian, being a liberal in all things, is essentially the apex liberal.

Progressives are liberals on morality.
Neocons are liberals on economy.

Put those two degeneracies together and you get the libertarian.

And what makes you not a degenerate?

We are all degenerates to some extent. It's part of our nature that we have to fight, and it is especially true as a result of our imploding culture. The difference comes in whether you resist or embrace it. Liberals embrace degeneracy of all kinds. They make a virtue of possessing no virtue at all. Thus they become more like animals than humans, chasing their base appetites, fulfilling greed, lust, gluttony, etc. Liberalism literally means liberalizing moral restraints on destructive behavior.

Once you realize this, the "left" becomes a lot clearer and the undercover types like neocons and libertarians no longer fool you.

A lot of liberalism was a success. I consider not murdering those who disagree, freedom of speech virtues.

[Speaker to Animals]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

[Hwen Hoshino]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

That is not how John Stuart Mill defined it.

[Speaker to Animals]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

That is not how John Stuart Mill defined it.

I am well aware of how liberals try to describe themselves. I am telling you what they actually are in terms of what they do, not what they say.

[jediuser598]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

That is not how John Stuart Mill defined it.

I am well aware of how liberals try to describe themselves. I am telling you what they actually are in terms of what they do, not what they say.

Of course, liberalism is only one story. What you choose that story to be. Liberals do no good, produce no goods, only there to redistribute wealth off of the products of others, except that's all demonstrably untrue. I pay taxes, I certainly pay less that a lot of people, but I don't get back all of what I put in. I work for the man and contribute to the system every day I work. Your co-workers, (and that means any of you) are sometimes liberal. Can you separate who is productive and who is not productive based on their political ideology? I bet you can't. All of those people at those silicon valley firms are creating value, and so are the Hollywood liberals, creating movies. They're also creating value. You would, of course, ignore all of that. Why not? It's convenient for you to believe such things.

What does liberalism mean? It means, "You do what you want to do, as long as you're not hurting someone else, then you're free to do it." It's about tolerance and respect for other cultures. We don't need religious nuts, either Christian or Muslim going around imprisoning or killing people because we don't want to follow your "divine" rules. You would have gay marriage banned, you would have abortion banned. If you weren't constrained by a secular government you'd probably be killing atheists.

I don't want to live by your rules, or your moral codes. This secular government protects me from both you and Muslims alike. You know I don't really make a distinction inbetween both of the religious nutjobs, you're both nuts, just different flavors. You both see a god in history, and I'm looking there and I'm thinking, fuck, your god must have autism or something. You see a god in Ghenghis Kahn? What your God allowed him to do? You would probably ban the burning of the bible as well, fuck free speech, right?

Keep god out of government, and don't force your beliefs on me.

[Hwen Hoshino]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

That is not how John Stuart Mill defined it.

I am well aware of how liberals try to describe themselves. I am telling you what they actually are in terms of what they do, not what they say.

I think they are confused about how they describe themselves at the moment.

[BjornP]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

That is not how John Stuart Mill defined it.

I am well aware of how liberals try to describe themselves. I am telling you what they actually are in terms of what they do, not what they say.

Pay no attention to the Christian here. I hear tell from good, tradtional amd decent Roman pagans that his cult worship a Middle Eastern demi-god by practising base acts of cannibalism on their own priesthood, and that they seek to upset social order and promote moral anarchy by insisting that their god loves plebs or even proles just as much as, or perhaps even more than, he loves patricians! Don't let him tell you otherwise, can't trust these cannibal-god worshippers to tell you the truth of their own beliefs.

FIE! You immoral subvervise with ideas from the East! FIE!

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It has been all downhill since our military leaders got cucked and allowed Christians to start building their grisly charnel houses in our fair capitol.

[DrYouth]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

Liberalism actually means both of these things.

We allow "degeneracy" as long as it doesn't hurt others.

We allow a range of values to exist, every value having it's shadow side... with the idea that a range of values can coexist, even if at first they seem contradictory.

It has actually been a huge success for the most part.

But it seems risky... and when your daughter falls for a punk, or an emo or god-forbid a furry... you start to think about rolling back the clock to the middle ages when these heresies would all have been burned at the stake.

[TheReal_ND]

That is not what liberalism means. Liberalism means the loosening of moral restrictions on destructive behavior.

Liberalism actually means both of these things.

We allow "degeneracy" as long as it doesn't hurt others.

We allow a range of values to exist, every value having it's shadow side... with the idea that a range of values can coexist, even if at first they seem contradictory.

It has actually been a huge success for the most part.

But it seems risky... and when your daughter falls for a punk, or an emo or god-forbid a furry... you start to think about rolling back the clock to the middle ages when these heresies would all have been burned at the stake.

What do liberals think about Andrew Anglin? Like politically speaking and his role in society.