Daniel Shaver shooting

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Post by pineapplemike » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:27 pm

page 6 already this thread is poppin

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:28 pm

I think he might have been trying to pull his pants up or something, but when he is crawling, and then out of the blue, he reaches for the belt, exactly like a draw, second time after being warned, can't say I wouldn't have shot him right there too.
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Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:29 pm

Fife wrote: The state and it's stasi don't have any legitimate authority to use deadly force than the most lowly bum on the street. NONE.
Really?
Here I thought the death penalty was legal.
For the state, of course.
Not you or I.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:32 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:LOL

the jury..
/shrug

That’s how Americans do it.
But you’re not the only one who doesn’t like the system.
Plenty of folks anxious to get their Justice, their way, right now.

You know your hashtag.

The way *humans* in general "do it" when it becomes clear there can be no justice is vigilante justice. Careful what you shrug off.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:36 pm

At 4:26, reaching for his belt, the more I watch it, the more it looks like going for a gun, it presents exactly like going for a piece on his hip.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:37 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fife wrote: The state and it's stasi don't have any legitimate authority to use deadly force than the most lowly bum on the street. NONE.
Really?
Here I thought the death penalty was legal.
For the state, of course.
Not you or I.
Hmm.

Seriously, though; imagine the exact same video playing out, except the shooter is Joe Sixpack rustling up some jimmie and his old lady who was parked on his front lawn, and some suspicious shit was seen through the windshield.

That's not much of a factual stretch.

I propose that reasonable people (read, reasonable jurors) would not hesitate to convict Joe Sixpack of something in the jury charge.

What authority does the collective have to act in a violent way against a neutralized threat that an individual doesn't have? Hmm?

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:40 pm

I’m not seeing the part where Joe SixPack is responding to a stranger waving a gun on his property. Which kinda makes the rest of the exercise pointless.
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Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:48 pm

DBTrek wrote:I’m not seeing the part where Joe SixPack is responding to a stranger waving a gun on his property. Which kinda makes the rest of the exercise pointless.
You're just being obtuse.

:shock:

What if the POV video/audio had been a regular citizen's actions and not a cop's actions? Assume the citizen was in the right to intially investigate the same reported threat to protect himself. What's the difference between the two scenarios?

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:49 pm

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by nmoore63 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:52 pm

Aren’t I supposed to be like looting a Nike town by now?