Grammarly.
-
- Posts: 5297
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
- Location: suiþiuþu
Re: Grammarly.
Are we allowed to end a sentence with a preposition?
An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna
Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck
-
- Posts: 12241
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:04 pm
Re: Grammarly.
You are . . . because you're European so no one expects you to know all the rules of English.
"Hey varmints, don't mess with a guy that's riding a buffalo"
-
- Posts: 15157
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:47 am
Re: Grammarly.
Failure to use the Oxford comma is the height of gauche.Hastur wrote:I like to promote the the Oxford comma. I makes life better.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is- ... -about-it/
http://mentalfloss.com/article/33637/be ... comma-wars
-
- Posts: 15157
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:47 am
Re: Grammarly.
What for?Hastur wrote:Are we allowed to end a sentence with a preposition?
-
- Posts: 5297
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
- Location: suiþiuþu
Re: Grammarly.
Thanks. It was something about which I was uncertain.DBTrek wrote:You are . . . because you're European so no one expects you to know all the rules of English.
An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna
Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck
-
- Posts: 2528
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:09 am
Re: Grammarly.
They really are not that difficult to understand if you keep in mind the overarching idea of giving clear notice about what is being taken out to your reading audience.The Conservative wrote:de officiis wrote:Other rules regarding omissions:
Never use an ellipsis to begin a quotation, or when individual words are merely altered.
When using quoted language as a phrase or clause, rather than as a full sentence, do not indicate omission of matter before or after a quotation.
Where language beginning the original sentence has been deleted, capitalize the first letter and place it in brackets if it is not already capitalized. If the sentence begins the quotation, do not otherwise indicate any omission.
Do not indicate the deletion of matter after the period or other final punctuation that concludes a final quoted sentence. If language after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and the sentence is followed by further quotation, however, retain the punctuation at the end of the sentence and insert an ellipsis before the remainder of the quotation.
If language both at the end and after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and followed by further quotation, use only one ellipsis to indicate both of the omissions.
There are additional rules regarding the use of ellipses and the omission of material from paragraphs, but I will charge a fee to share those.
You realize I enjoy writing, please don't make my brain hurt with rules that I have no intention of either following or bend to such a degree that I don't care either way
-
- Posts: 12241
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:04 pm
Re: Grammarly.
If you want the boring answer:Hastur wrote:Thanks. It was something about which I was uncertain.DBTrek wrote:You are . . . because you're European so no one expects you to know all the rules of English.
At one time, schoolchildren were taught that a sentence should never end with a preposition. However, this is a philosophy actually associated with Latin grammar. While many aspects of Latin have made their way into the English language, this particular grammar rule is not suited for modern English usage.
There are times when trying to avoid ending a sentence with a preposition creates unnecessary and awkward phrasing. For example, Winston Churchill once reportedly exclaimed, "That is the sort of thing up with which I will not put!" to mock someone who criticized him for ending a sentence with a preposition. Since the purpose of writing is to clearly communicate your thoughts and ideas, it’s perfectly acceptable to end a sentence with a preposition if the alternative would create confusion.
Read more at http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts ... fouMk7q.99
"Hey varmints, don't mess with a guy that's riding a buffalo"
-
- Posts: 1852
- Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:13 pm
- Location: Deep in the heart of Jersey
Re: Grammarly.
It is necessary to use one space between each ellipsis subsequent to the first in the series. Thus spake Kate Turabian.de officiis wrote:When indicating an omission at the end of a sentence, four are used.
-
- Posts: 5297
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
- Location: suiþiuþu
Re: Grammarly.
Not boring at all. Not with a literature Nobel Prize winner chiming in. Love Churchill's quips.DBTrek wrote:If you want the boring answer:Hastur wrote:Thanks. It was something about which I was uncertain.DBTrek wrote:You are . . . because you're European so no one expects you to know all the rules of English.
At one time, schoolchildren were taught that a sentence should never end with a preposition. However, this is a philosophy actually associated with Latin grammar. While many aspects of Latin have made their way into the English language, this particular grammar rule is not suited for modern English usage.
There are times when trying to avoid ending a sentence with a preposition creates unnecessary and awkward phrasing. For example, Winston Churchill once reportedly exclaimed, "That is the sort of thing up with which I will not put!" to mock someone who criticized him for ending a sentence with a preposition. Since the purpose of writing is to clearly communicate your thoughts and ideas, it’s perfectly acceptable to end a sentence with a preposition if the alternative would create confusion.
Read more at http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts ... fouMk7q.99
Fucking Romans.
An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna
Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck
-
- Posts: 4116
- Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:37 pm
Re: Grammarly.
Freshman year of high school we had a old mean black lady as our English teacher. She was the size of a linebacker and had a buzz haircut. Her methods were rooted in drilling and a more classical way of teaching "grammar," which she pronounced with the correct "ahr" sound in the second syllable as opposed to the more commonly used "er." She was also an authoritarian and second in command to the school dean for discipline.
I like to think she helped me out greatly in my growth as a writer with my command of grammar; she gave me the basics that later forms of writing education honed. This is how I could write History and Political Science papers and tests in College half-drunk and still get A's.
However, even if you don't have an education rooted in older, authoritarian techniques, I believe that simply reading more books as opposed to internet postings will improve your grammar greatly.
I like to think she helped me out greatly in my growth as a writer with my command of grammar; she gave me the basics that later forms of writing education honed. This is how I could write History and Political Science papers and tests in College half-drunk and still get A's.
However, even if you don't have an education rooted in older, authoritarian techniques, I believe that simply reading more books as opposed to internet postings will improve your grammar greatly.
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session