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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:10 pm
Zlaxer wrote:@GCF - how many more attacks do you need before you agree that Islam needs to be contained or eliminated? There have been too many to consider the durka durks a "fringe" movement. What is the west supposed to do if the "moderate" mussies can't reign in the fanatics?
You're running out of time for a solution - the world is quickly running out of patients....
Thousands. Tens of thousands.
Because THERE ARE A BILLION OF THEM, and I understand statistics.
One out of 7 human beings are Muslims. For 1% of them to be terrorists, we would have to see over 10 MILLION terror attacks. This is not a war with Islam, it's a war of ideology with an infinitesimal group of idiots. We have our own idiots in this country, and while they stir things up once in a while, the vast majority of us understand that they're a dying breed.
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by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 22, 2017 6:11 pm
Holy fucking shit. I can't believe you just posted that.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:12 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Zlaxer wrote:
Your position is quickly becoming fanatical....Even a free society has its limits.....I say its better to strip away the rights of non-citizens than to make citizens submit to terror, or to encroach the rights of the citizens to defend the rights of non-citizens. In other words, Islam needs to be contained to the ME...no immigration to civilized nations period.
....sucks for the non-durka durk mussies....but it's simply not fair to the rest of the world's citizens to place them in constant danger just so we can say we stay 100% true to our ideals....
And I say that the act of 'submitting to terror' would be exactly what you propose - giving in to base fear and anger, lashing out, and going to some kind of idiotic war with 1 billion humans scattered around the planet. We would become the Great Satan that they are trying to paint us as.
Also, who the hell is 'in constant danger', outside of an ISIS-controlled city? You know as well as I do that you're more likely to get hit by lightning while being eaten by a bull shark, than encounter a terrorist.
We don't have to go to war with Islam. Just quit importing them like they are the world's Mexicans. Why is that so hard to do? Why do you object to immigration reform?
Because immigration reform has nothing to do with the issue. Muslim terrorists aren't going through a decade of vetting and procedure to get here - they fly in, and do their shit, or they are batshit-crazy citizens, looking for an excuse to do batshit-crazy things.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:13 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:Holy fucking shit. I can't believe you just posted that.
And I can't believe what a fucking panic monkey you are. What kind of "American" is willing to trash our beliefs over a fucking idiot on the other side of the planet getting ahold of a propane tank?!?
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by Zlaxer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:13 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Zlaxer wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:If we are at war, then name the target. A military target.
Your position is quickly becoming fanatical....Even a free society has its limits.....I say its better to strip away the rights of non-citizens than to make citizens submit to terror, or to encroach the rights of the citizens to defend the rights of non-citizens. In other words, Islam needs to be contained to the ME...no immigration to civilized nations period.
....sucks for the non-durka durk mussies....but it's simply not fair to the rest of the world's citizens to place them in constant danger just so we can say we stay 100% true to our ideals....
And I say that the act of 'submitting to terror' would be exactly what you propose - giving in to base fear and anger, lashing out, and going to some kind of idiotic war with 1 billion humans scattered around the planet. We would become the Great Satan that they are trying to paint us as.
That's my point - your becoming a fanatic....containment is the best solution IMHO as it preserves the most rights for the kids who don't throw poo in the sandbox
Also, who the hell is 'in constant danger', outside of an ISIS-controlled city? You know as well as I do that you're more likely to get hit by lightning while being eaten by a bull shark, than encounter a terrorist.
Check your numbers foo http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/fatalities.shtml
There's twenty dead in this attack alone - not even counting the 3000K dead on 911, the Madrid bombings, the London bombings, all the slaughtered Christians in Syria....the numbers simply don't support you.
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by TheReal_ND » Mon May 22, 2017 6:16 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:TheReal_ND wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
And I say that the act of 'submitting to terror' would be exactly what you propose - giving in to base fear and anger, lashing out, and going to some kind of idiotic war with 1 billion humans scattered around the planet. We would become the Great Satan that they are trying to paint us as.
Also, who the hell is 'in constant danger', outside of an ISIS-controlled city? You know as well as I do that you're more likely to get hit by lightning while being eaten by a bull shark, than encounter a terrorist.
We don't have to go to war with Islam. Just quit importing them like they are the world's Mexicans. Why is that so hard to do? Why do you object to immigration reform?
Because immigration reform has nothing to do with the issue. Muslim terrorists aren't going through a decade of vetting and procedure to get here - they fly in, and do their shit, or they are batshit-crazy citizens, looking for an excuse to do batshit-crazy things.
Let's try a thought experiment out so we can get on the same page. Put aside all the other extenuating factors that could be involved in the scenario, let's just see if we are even on the same page for a moment;
Culture A: Accepts Culture B in
Culture B: terrorizes Culture A
Culture A: acts like a cuck and takes even more of them in like they are ho hos.
Culture B: Does X
What do you think X is commie cat face?
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by Zlaxer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:16 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote: the vast majority of us understand that they're a dying breed.
Indeed :facepalm:
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by TheReal_ND » Mon May 22, 2017 6:17 pm
Zlaxer wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote: the vast majority of us understand that they're a dying breed.
Indeed :facepalm:
He was talking about white america
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2017 6:18 pm
Zlaxer wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Zlaxer wrote:
Your position is quickly becoming fanatical....Even a free society has its limits.....I say its better to strip away the rights of non-citizens than to make citizens submit to terror, or to encroach the rights of the citizens to defend the rights of non-citizens. In other words, Islam needs to be contained to the ME...no immigration to civilized nations period.
....sucks for the non-durka durk mussies....but it's simply not fair to the rest of the world's citizens to place them in constant danger just so we can say we stay 100% true to our ideals....
And I say that the act of 'submitting to terror' would be exactly what you propose - giving in to base fear and anger, lashing out, and going to some kind of idiotic war with 1 billion humans scattered around the planet. We would become the Great Satan that they are trying to paint us as.
That's my point - your becoming a fanatic....containment is the best solution IMHO as it preserves the most rights for the kids who don't throw poo in the sandbox
We pooed in their sandbox, and have been doing so for 60 years. It's completely predictable that some of them would go nuts.
Also, who the hell is 'in constant danger', outside of an ISIS-controlled city? You know as well as I do that you're more likely to get hit by lightning while being eaten by a bull shark, than encounter a terrorist.
Check your numbers foo http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/fatalities.shtml
There's twenty dead in this attack alone - not even counting the 3000K dead on 911, the Madrid bombings, the London bombings, all the slaughtered Christians in Syria....the numbers simply don't support you.
...which amounts to a grand total of what - 10,000 dead? 10s of millions died last year from heart disease and cancer.
Seriously, you're too smart for this.
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by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 22, 2017 6:18 pm
We need tens of thousands more terror attacks before GCF changes his mind. No point discussing anything with that loon.