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Re: Connecticut

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed May 31, 2017 8:50 am

We're going to have a run on state bankruptcies soon.

Illinois is coming up on it's 3rd year without a budget. They are also running in the red at the rate of about $6 billion a year.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... to-resolve
The self-inflicted crisis has left the fifth most-populous state with a record $14.5 billion of unpaid bills, ravaged entities like universities and social service providers that rely on state aid and undermined Illinois’s standing in the bond market. Without a deal by midnight, it’s increasingly likely that Illinois enters its third fiscal year on July 1 without a budget.

Bond-rating companies have warned of further ratings cuts, signaling that Illinois could be the first state since at least 1970 to lose investment-grade status.
The Democrats solution: More taxes.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by apeman » Wed May 31, 2017 9:43 am

PartyOf5 wrote:The Democrats solution: More taxes.
NEW TOLLS SHOULD COVER THE SHORTFALL!

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Re: Connecticut

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 31, 2017 9:45 am

apeman wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:The Democrats solution: More taxes.
NEW TOLLS SHOULD COVER THE SHORTFALL!
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Re: Connecticut

Post by Ph64 » Wed May 31, 2017 9:55 am

Zlaxer wrote:http://www.dailyructions.com/new-york-w ... dquarters/
New York is far ahead of Boston in the competition for Hartford-based Aetna’s new headquarters, Daily Ructions can report. After 164 years in Hartford, the insurance giant invited proposals from Boston and New York. The city that never sleeps is soon expected to win a public acknowledgement of its victory.
CT doesn't have the money to bribe them this time around......

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The announcement should provoke a searching examination of the policies that have caused Aetna–on the heels of GE–to leave Connecticut.
Don't be silly, Mallory is a democrat, it'll provoke a doubling down on failed policies that drove GE and now Aetna out of the state. That's how it works... "Obviously the policy failed because we weren't doing *enough* of it."
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Re: Connecticut

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 31, 2017 10:12 am

What if I told you that this had almost nothing to do with tax policy? :roll:

Kansas went the opposite direction, and failed miserably as well.
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Re: Connecticut

Post by Ph64 » Wed May 31, 2017 11:56 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:What if I told you that this had almost nothing to do with tax policy? :roll:

Kansas went the opposite direction, and failed miserably as well.
Well, pretty much the "pension crisis", in pretty much any state you can think of, even those that aren't considered in "crisis" yet, are all failing from the Fed's ZIRP policy (or near zero for a decade+) coupled with the "assumption" (a poor one) of 7+% returns on what should've been "AAA safe" investments - which became hedge funds, risky CDOs, junk bonds, stocks, etc, in a scramble for returns to make their poor assumptions.

Add to that the fact that whenever things were going good and the returns were over their "assumed return" the states under-contributed thinking "it was going great", stealing the money for other things... And then in down years they didn't have the budget either so were lucky if they even made the full contribution...

The whole thing is based on an "average" return... But you need to keep contributing at the same rate, even in "boom times", because invariably there will be "bust times" when you won't make that average. Unfortunately governments are like lottery winners, they get a windfall and instead of investing it they go off like punch drunk sailors spending on shit, making poor decisions, etc... Then realize they're broke and start losing the 24,000 sq ft McMansion they "bought" (with a huge mortgage), having the Ferrari and two BMWs reposessed along with the jet-skis, yacht, etc - when instead they probably should've kept their 2000sq ft home, paid it off, bought a new SUV, and invested the rest (which could've earned them enough return yearly to live comfortably).

The fact that they start desperately looking for new ways to get money (bleeding taxpayers) is just a side effect of piss poor decision making for decades now.
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Re: Connecticut

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Re: Connecticut

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed May 31, 2017 12:10 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:What if I told you that this had almost nothing to do with tax policy? :roll:
I'd ask you to back it up with some facts. "Kansas" is not an answer.

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Re: Connecticut

Post by Ph64 » Wed May 31, 2017 12:14 pm

That's why in business they've pushed for 401k's, etc - if you loose a crap load of money in your 401k, IRA, it's "your fault" for making poor investment decisions. In a defined benefit pension it becomes "their fault" when it crashes apart... And people get way more nasty/ugly when they feel they had no part in the blame.
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Re: Connecticut

Post by apeman » Wed May 31, 2017 12:42 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:What if I told you that this had almost nothing to do with tax policy? :roll:
then I would assume you are employing the usual completely self-assured yet completely wrong one-line snarky comment policy that you instituted years ago.

By the way, much of Hartford's massive budget shortfall is caused because there is now so little taxable property in the city.