What has the media done now?

[Okeefenokee]

I caught most of a documentary on Showtime last night called Trumped. It was basically a recap of his path from declaring his candidacy through election night. For a while it seemed generally unbiased. But the filmmakers true colors were displayed in full effect during election night. Seems these guys were fine talking about Trump in a semi-positive way when he was insulting the GOP field, but the election night chapter ended in the filmmakers literally breaking down in tears as they came to the realization that Trump had won. As long as they thought he wasn't going to win, they were fine playing the part of the dutiful filmmaker recording history. Once he won, it was tears and swearing.

So this wasn't really a documentary at all, but more of a propaganda tool disguised as a documentary. They didn't even try and make he filmmakers look even somewhat impartial at that point.

Oh, I'm gonna have to watch that.

Thanks

WHAT’S IT REALLY ABOUT?
The events that made up the 2016 US presidential election — and I mean that quite literally. There is no over-arching story or lessons to be gleaned from Trumped. It is simply a beat-by-beat breakdown of some (but not all) of the key events that happened during the 2016 campaign. But it’s from an extremely high-level, superficial view, so we see Trump’s campaign announcement, stump speeches, and moments from debates and press conferences (you know, the things that most Americans already saw) while everything else is largely left by the wayside. There’s no discussion of the alt-right, or the economic forces that made Trump’s message appeal to so many. The state of race relations in the United States isn’t featured prominently. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s role is never explored, nor does the film ever really touch upon the campaign’s reported connections to Russia. There are several interviews with Trump advisor Roger Stone, who makes so many foreboding comments he comes across as a Bond villain — but even then the film never bothers following up or connecting any dots.

The entire thing plays like the kind of recap you’d get at the start of a new season of Game of Thrones, before abruptly ending on Election Night without even covering the reaction from either campaign. In select moments, the audience does get to see Heilemann and Halperin react to events as they happen — they thought Trump’s Access Hollywood tape would destroy him, for example — but they’re fleeting. The only kind of narrative intent comes in the final moments when both journalists offer their candid reactions when they realize Trump had won. (Spoiler: they both thought it was devastating for the country.)

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/25/14380 ... reality-tv

[clubgop]

I caught most of a documentary on Showtime last night called Trumped. It was basically a recap of his path from declaring his candidacy through election night. For a while it seemed generally unbiased. But the filmmakers true colors were displayed in full effect during election night. Seems these guys were fine talking about Trump in a semi-positive way when he was insulting the GOP field, but the election night chapter ended in the filmmakers literally breaking down in tears as they came to the realization that Trump had won. As long as they thought he wasn't going to win, they were fine playing the part of the dutiful filmmaker recording history. Once he won, it was tears and swearing.

So this wasn't really a documentary at all, but more of a propaganda tool disguised as a documentary. They didn't even try and make he filmmakers look even somewhat impartial at that point.

Oh, I'm gonna have to watch that.

Thanks

WHAT’S IT REALLY ABOUT?
The events that made up the 2016 US presidential election — and I mean that quite literally. There is no over-arching story or lessons to be gleaned from Trumped. It is simply a beat-by-beat breakdown of some (but not all) of the key events that happened during the 2016 campaign. But it’s from an extremely high-level, superficial view, so we see Trump’s campaign announcement, stump speeches, and moments from debates and press conferences (you know, the things that most Americans already saw) while everything else is largely left by the wayside. There’s no discussion of the alt-right, or the economic forces that made Trump’s message appeal to so many. The state of race relations in the United States isn’t featured prominently. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s role is never explored, nor does the film ever really touch upon the campaign’s reported connections to Russia. There are several interviews with Trump advisor Roger Stone, who makes so many foreboding comments he comes across as a Bond villain — but even then the film never bothers following up or connecting any dots.

The entire thing plays like the kind of recap you’d get at the start of a new season of Game of Thrones, before abruptly ending on Election Night without even covering the reaction from either campaign. In select moments, the audience does get to see Heilemann and Halperin react to events as they happen — they thought Trump’s Access Hollywood tape would destroy him, for example — but they’re fleeting. The only kind of narrative intent comes in the final moments when both journalists offer their candid reactions when they realize Trump had won. (Spoiler: they both thought it was devastating for the country.)

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/25/14380 ... reality-tv

I think some of that is an act. They are part of liberal media establishment so they are expected to act a certain way. But they have a history with Trump I've seen them in interviews and private moments, the pearl clutching is for the benefit of their employers and audience.

[C-Mag]

He's got to come up with some substance or he is going to be crucified by the media or the IC he seems intent on making his enemies.

Any evidence of this? Cause this same mantra has been repeated for 2 years. When you gonna realize repeating the same lies isnt gonna make it true?

Exactly, all the time the press has been making Trump the boogeyman, and refusing to even present positive arguments from Trump like No more Nation Building, lets try peace.

[Montegriffo]

Monte, what do you think of this message from Trump

Reads like meaningless psycho-babble to me. Campaign slogan with no details, Trump's forte. The time for campaign slogans is over.
Trump just seems to ramble on without being able to keep on point or answer direct questions without some narcissistic comment about what a "tremendous" job he's doing and then diverting to the "unfair" media.
He's got to come up with some substance or he is going to be crucified by the media or the IC he seems intent on making his enemies.

So, no engaging the world with peace for Monte, got it .

Well that's the thing, on one hand he talks about wanting peace and on the other he talks about escalating the war on terror.
"Peace through strength" sounds too close to "strength through joy" to take seriously for me.

[clubgop]

Any evidence of this? Cause this same mantra has been repeated for 2 years. When you gonna realize repeating the same lies isnt gonna make it true?

Exactly, all the time the press has been making Trump the boogeyman, and refusing to even present positive arguments from Trump like No more Nation Building, lets try peace.

My amazement is with the short memories. They just flipped shit over Obama's slogan of "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back." But now Russia is bad? What's the rule? If It is older than what Monty is fucking, it doesn't count?

[clubgop]

Reads like meaningless psycho-babble to me. Campaign slogan with no details, Trump's forte. The time for campaign slogans is over.
Trump just seems to ramble on without being able to keep on point or answer direct questions without some narcissistic comment about what a "tremendous" job he's doing and then diverting to the "unfair" media.
He's got to come up with some substance or he is going to be crucified by the media or the IC he seems intent on making his enemies.

So, no engaging the world with peace for Monte, got it .

Well that's the thing, on one hand he talks about wanting peace and on the other he talks about escalating the war on terror.
"Peace through strength" sounds too close to "strength through joy" to take seriously for me.

Protip: no one turns to the left for national security. Stick with the free shit if you ever want to win again.

[Montegriffo]

My amazement is with the short memories. They just flipped shit over Obama's slogan of "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back." But now Russia is bad? What's the rule? If It is older than what Monty is fucking, it doesn't count?

You really need to come up with some new material. Just repeating the same old joke for over a year isn't funny, it just shows what a witless, spiteful prick you are.

[clubgop]

My amazement is with the short memories. They just flipped shit over Obama's slogan of "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back." But now Russia is bad? What's the rule? If It is older than what Monty is fucking, it doesn't count?

You really need to come up with some new material. Just repeating the same old joke for over a year isn't funny, it just shows what a witless, spiteful prick you are.

Nope unlike you I like to stick with the truth. Not just make up the narrative for whatever is convenient at the moment. So you can keep picking the petals of the daisy saying "We like Russia, we like it not." Because it is a great pick up line but for adults it is not a responsible foreign policy.

[Montegriffo]

You know what, I'm just not going to bother reading anything you post any more. You have nothing to add to any discussion except insults and infantile taunts.

[clubgop]

You know what, I'm just not going to bother reading anything you post any more. You have nothing to add to any discussion except insults and infantile taunts.

I am but a mirror I reflect back upon you what you give in the first place. That will really show me, keep challenging me.

All you do is parrot old, defeated talking points. Surrender isnt going to win you any elections.