Secession

[C-Mag]

Citizens brought up dangers to the State of California and the Feds 12 years ago
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 cubic feet per second and the concerns were overblown.

[jbird4049]

Citizens brought up dangers to the State of California and the Feds 12 years ago
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 cubic feet per second and the concerns were overblown.

In the comments section, it almost immediately devolves into a game of it "the other party did! the liberal/conservatives are all bad/at fault!!"

Some days, the urge for alchohol is strong in me.

[C-Mag]

Citizens brought up dangers to the State of California and the Feds 12 years ago
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 cubic feet per second and the concerns were overblown.

In the comments section, it almost immediately devolves into a game of it "the other party did! the liberal/conservatives are all bad/at fault!!"

Some days, the urge for alchohol is strong in me.

Not really the issue. The issue is that it's a lot easier to find funds to create big new structures, and rarely enough to maintain them. Building big new infrastructure is sexy, maintaining them is not.

I knew this shit was going to come out. This is a nation wide problem for us. What happens is the repairs are identified, but then usually put on a deferred maintenance list. Which is a way for an organization to say, we recognize we have work that needs to be done, but we can't do it because of funding.

Finding funding for a spillway that has never been used in 50 years is not easy to do. Easier to say, Hey we need High Speed Rail, or we need a new sports stadium. Whatever.
We need to change our model. It's not working as good as it could.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Citizens brought up dangers to the State of California and the Feds 12 years ago
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 cubic feet per second and the concerns were overblown.

In the comments section, it almost immediately devolves into a game of it "the other party did! the liberal/conservatives are all bad/at fault!!"

Some days, the urge for alchohol is strong in me.

Same as here, really. Party politics have consumed rational discussion.

[Speaker to Animals]

You two need to join gaslighters anonymous and get some help.

[Ex-California]

Now is the right time for CA to claim independence from all that filthy federal lucre.

It's rather obvious that CA is handling its own infrastructure just fine, thankyouverymuch.

ToDaZeD CA *facepalm*

It was a federal agency that denied the fixes.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

[Speaker to Animals]

The article says your state regulators dismissed the challenge when it was determined California would have to pay for the improvements, and the fedeal agency simply backed them up.

[The Conservative]

http://www.salon.com/2017/02/12/an-inde ... f-an-idea/

With recent public opinion surveys indicating that a third of Californians support peacefully seceding from the United States, it’s time for the media to stop dismissing the idea as a zany left coast response to the newly elected Republican federal government.

CA breaks away, it will fail and the DNC will loose all power - I say let it go....more problems than it's worth.....they can take the 9th Cir. too.

Feel free to post other US secession related topics here as well....

So when the "Big One" hits, does it mean we have to give them support?

[Speaker to Animals]

We could basically drain the social swamp by encouraging all the degenerates to emigrate to California before it's official. Then close the borders.

[The Conservative]

We could basically drain the social swamp by encouraging all the degenerates to emigrate to California before it's official. Then close the borders.

Oh, I'd love to see that.