Alternative Facts

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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:50 pm

MilSpecs wrote:The press secretary blatantly lies, has a tantrum when everyone acknowledges that he's lying, and then a senior aide calls his lies 'alternative facts'. Newspeak is now the official policy of the land.

Okay, this is how I see it. First, come inauguration day, no biggie, it seems like every other inauguration. Then comes the coverage of the parade and protesters, fine I was expecting protesters on that day and, IMO, other than the anarchists that came out and destroyed everything they were loud but failed to stop the parade. The Parade coverage (which we watched at work, all day) seemed like every other inaugural parade- nothing real special.

Then I come home and there is a story about the National Park Service's Twitter going dark and that the last thing they posted was the comparison picture of 2009 and 2017.

Then later came that press conference and that was really crazy. I mean you can tell by the photos that there wasn't a lot of people there and so what. What is really making the news is how the Trump administration is responding/handling everything and they really need to stop making minor things into mountains, IMO. We would all be better off but again, what is really the news story is that the press secretary blatantly lies and then someone else- higher ranking than he is- which would be Conway- comes out and says that yeah, there wasn't 1 million people but only 200,000 people.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:53 pm

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Kath wrote:FFS Carlus. We know he tweeted the error because we read the tweet. http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/01/2 ... ust-tweet/
Doesn't wash for me, even if I believe his BS, at a bare minimum he jumped to a conclusion that MLK had been removed. Shows bias, MLK is gone, ergo I get to prove Trump is a racist.

Not responsible reporting. If he wanted to know, he should have investigated before reporting. He's a dumbfuck, and not a professional.
I'm not getting your point. You told MilSpecs she had no way of knowing the reporter corrected his incorrect tweet. I showed you proof and you don't believe it?

Read the tweet Carlus. He pointed out his error an hour after he made the error.

You guys have set new standards of proof. Providing a correction tweet should be proof of the existence of a correction tweet. What more evidence do you need?

SMH.

We've already agreed it was irresponsible, but now you deny the existence of a correction tweet? WTF?
OK, let me spell this out for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalis ... _reporting

Accuracy and standards for factual reporting[edit]
Reporters are expected to be as accurate as possible given the time allotted to story preparation and the space available, and to seek reliable sources.
Events with a single eyewitness are reported with attribution. Events with two or more independent eyewitnesses may be reported as fact. Controversial facts are reported with attribution.
Independent fact-checking by another employee of the publisher is desirable.
This shit bag is passing himself off as a professional. But he's not following Journalistic Ethics. He did not even attempt to corroborate his info before he reported it. Then, a whole bunch of other reporters jumped on it and reported it as fact as well without any attempt at corroborating the rash report.

Race relations after 8 years of Obama are worse than they were in '09. We've had highly charge racial violence in this country. In this case it is HIGHLY, irresponsible to violate Journalistic Standards in a report that many can take as showing the incoming POTUS has a problem with MLK.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:55 pm

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Kath wrote:FFS Carlus. We know he tweeted the error because we read the tweet. http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/01/2 ... ust-tweet/
Doesn't wash for me, even if I believe his BS, at a bare minimum he jumped to a conclusion that MLK had been removed. Shows bias, MLK is gone, ergo I get to prove Trump is a racist.

Not responsible reporting. If he wanted to know, he should have investigated before reporting. He's a dumbfuck, and not a professional.
I'm not getting your point. You told MilSpecs she had no way of knowing the reporter corrected his incorrect tweet. I showed you proof and you don't believe it?

Read the tweet Carlus. He pointed out his error an hour after he made the error.

You guys have set new standards of proof. Providing a correction tweet should be proof of the existence of a correction tweet. What more evidence do you need?

SMH.

We've already agreed it was irresponsible, but now you deny the existence of a correction tweet? WTF?
The lie got more likes and retweets. The lie was already halfway around the world before the truth got out. The hack did the job. This was a bust, a fucking statue, how about wait and confirm the facts. But nope the DNC is paying these guys good money. If the press can lie like this then so can everyone else and you got no one to blame but for yourself.

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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:59 pm

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The lie got more likes and retweets. The lie was already halfway around the world before the truth got out. The hack did the job. This was a bust, a fucking statue, how about wait and confirm the facts. But nope the DNC is paying these guys good money. If the press can lie like this then so can everyone else and you got no one to blame but for yourself.

Yep, mission accomplished, Trump is a racist.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:02 pm

Heres the crowd for Hillary's inauguration.

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Suck it, you butthurt losers.

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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:03 pm

clubgop wrote:Heres the crowd for Hillary's inauguration.

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Suck it, you butthurt losers.

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You're Killin me Brother !

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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:04 pm

Kath wrote:
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Uh uh all the while you said jack shit when Obama and Hillary blamed Benghazi on a youtube video.
Wrong. I condemned that action.
Proof or it didn't happen. And 2 weeks after the 2012 election doesn't count. The lie did the damage and you soaked it up.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by K@th » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:05 pm

C-Mag wrote:
This shit bag is passing himself off as a professional. But he's not following Journalistic Ethics. He did not even attempt to corroborate his info before he reported it. Then, a whole bunch of other reporters jumped on it and reported it as fact as well without any attempt at corroborating the rash report.
Let's try this: You make point A and I agree with you. In return, I make point B. What's next?? Oh, you want to argue point A again? Ok, I agree, again, with point A. I make point B. You want to argue point A again?

WTF

Carlus, the fact that many news outlets copy/paste stories and present them as their own is not news. We've known this for years. The less informed are just catching on, but you and I and most here have known this for a long, long time.

We shouldn't have to re-have that discussion every time there's a new story. We'll never get anything accomplished if we have to keep doing that.

This whole "How the Pres chooses to decorate the WH" shit is a silly nonsense distraction. Every president gets to choose his desk, the pictures that hang, the busts on display. Who gives a crap about that? I don't care if he chooses Churchill or MLK...

The guy tweeted an error and then quickly corrected the error.

Now, can we move on?

How does any of that relate to the numbers posted by The Metro in DC? They are not the press. They are not the media. They run The DC Metro. They report numbers. Are you accusing them of lying about how many people used the Metro for the last four elections?
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:09 pm

Kath wrote:
This whole "How the Pres chooses to decorate the WH" shit is a silly nonsense distraction. Every president gets to choose his desk, the pictures that hang, the busts on display. Who gives a crap about that? I don't care if he chooses Churchill or MLK...

The guy tweeted an error and then quickly corrected the error.

Now, can we move on?

How does any of that relate to the numbers posted by The Metro in DC? They are not the press. They are not the media. They run The DC Metro. They report numbers. Are you accusing them of lying about how many people used the Metro for the last four elections?
OK Kath, I get your point lets bring this back to what's important. What I'm hearing from you is.

1. Reporters no following Journalistic Ethics is not important as long as they say sorry.
2. Metro pass numbers are important.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by K@th » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:09 pm

clubgop wrote:
The lie did the damage and you soaked it up.
Prove it. You made a claim. The point is yours to prove. I know what I said and how I feel about that far better than you do. I don't care, though. You never acknowledge it when I do blast a D. You only call me a liberal hack when I blast someone on the R team.

I can hate both sides, equally. You know how I know that? Because here I am, doing just that.

I'm not rehashing the Benghazi You Tube thing again.
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