Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as Speaker?

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:01 am

Democrats are clinging to the presidential popular vote as their reason for keeping the status quo. In the process they will lose even more of the working middle class. They can turn Cali into North Mexico, but they will continue to lose middle America.

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Post by apeman » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:04 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:We are indoctrinated to not consider culture.
I only started realizing the importance and dominant effects of culture within the last year or so. Now I see it behind everything.

I even lived across the country in my 20's, had friends from all over including deep south, and was still completely ignorant about culture.

Removing the blinders has been a real trip.

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Post by Ex-California » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:20 am

The distinction between Yankee costal Norcal, El Norte Socal, and Far West California is really apparent as someone who has lived here my whole life in 6 different places around the state
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by kybkh » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:29 am

Kath wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I don't think the Democrats are going to get over it anytime soon, I think they will have to be defeated at least twice, before they even start to get the message. Took the Liberals here almost a decade to recover from Harper Derangement Syndrome, exact same pattern is playing out down south now with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I live in Leftyville and I'd say right now, that's how it looks. It's early, though. They are still licking wounds. There's an over-reaction to everything. I'd agree that a decade seems about right. (Not until the end of time, as some are claiming. :lol: )

This division is destroying us. I'd like both teams to remember that it was their loving and caring politicians who created this divide, specifically so they could line their pockets while the rest of us were busy blaming each other for every perceived butt hurt.

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Kath,

Do you see that the Democratic Party is being changed by the ethnic makeup of it's base?

This article tries to link it to education but it doesn't take in to account the increased number of individuals with some college education in all demographics, especially minority groups.

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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:38 am

PartyOf5 wrote:Democrats are clinging to the presidential popular vote as their reason for keeping the status quo. In the process they will lose even more of the working middle class. They can turn Cali into North Mexico, but they will continue to lose middle America.
You guys need to quit pretending this is the first time ever that power has shifted. The Rs got full control 10 years ago and lost it again. The 40% of the country that has no true party allegiance gets bored with the tactics and votes differently the next time.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again. Hopefully, after 4 years of this clown, the electorate will demand a higher quality leader.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:44 am

kybkh wrote: Do you see that the Democratic Party is being changed by the ethnic makeup of it's base?
Whether it's factual or not, most minorities view the R team as becoming more racist. When we go to Kansas to visit Nerd's family, for example, I always notice how very nice the people are. The midwest is filled with nice people.

They are also racist. That's a fact. They aren't mean racists; they aren't burning crosses or setting out to hurt black people; they are nice people who don't want anyone harmed.

But, they definitely see black people as "less than." And that comes through. "Those people are this that the other thing."

"THOSE PEOPLE."
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by Dand » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:47 am

Is it automatically racist to refer to racial groups, Kath? I've been told by leftists that it's racist for whites to claim to be "color blind" as well. Which is it?

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Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:04 am

Dand wrote:Is it automatically racist to refer to racial groups, Kath? I've been told by leftists that it's racist for whites to claim to be "color blind" as well. Which is it?
If you see an entire racial "them" as less than, that's racist. If you merely see "them" as different, it is not racist.

I know lefties, but I am not one, and the lefties I hang out with don't hate white people. They are (mostly) white people. Some of my black friends here, who have lived elsewhere, have faced some terrible racism; some have not faced any. It does depend on where in the country they have lived. I have one black friend from Alabama, and she doesn't even want to talk about her life there.

It's weird to claim color blindness, though. It doesn't make any sense. If someone literally cannot see a black person's skin as being not the same as a white person's skin, that's odd.

I think SJWs are a very loud group. We don't talk about them much in my circle of friends. We roll our eyes at them and go on our way.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by kybkh » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:10 am

Kath wrote:
kybkh wrote: Do you see that the Democratic Party is being changed by the ethnic makeup of it's base?
Whether it's factual or not, most minorities view the R team as becoming more racist. When we go to Kansas to visit Nerd's family, for example, I always notice how very nice the people are. The midwest is filled with nice people.

They are also racist. That's a fact. They aren't mean racists; they aren't burning crosses or setting out to hurt black people; they are nice people who don't want anyone harmed.

But, they definitely see black people as "less than." And that comes through. "Those people are this that the other thing."

"THOSE PEOPLE."
Well, isn't that quite a big qualifier? Don't all people generally stereotype each other? I think that's where this all went wrong, we eliminated the word stereotype and replaced it with racist.

I bet you money any of the "racist" folks in the Midwest would give the shirt off their back to any person of any color if they thought it would help and it was appreciated.
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Re: Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as House Minority Leader?

Post by K@th » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:19 am

kybkh wrote:

I bet you money any of the "racist" folks in the Midwest would give the shirt off their back to any person of any color if they thought it would help and it was appreciated.
Yes. That was part of my point.
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