THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by BjornP » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:27 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
The democratic party pays for organized rioters to attack American citizens on the streets, and what do they say? "Both sides have bad apples", as if there exists anything comparable on the other side. Muslims committing genocide against Christians and Yazidis? Don't make the Muslims angry, and maybe we should import millions more Muslims, the very same ones committing the genocide.. Man gets beaten nearly to death with a metal flagpole for going to the wrong university lecture? People like GCF say he shouldn't have showed up or worn the wrong hat.

It's really quite revolting.
President Trump wrote:"There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers... Well, you think our country is so innocent?"
"Sure, Muslims kill alot of people, but hey, we kill alot of people, too... so like, we shouldn't really judge".

"Sure antifa beats people with flagpoles for wanting to listen to Milo, but hey, one of our guys blew up a building in Oklahoma once, so we shouldn't really judge..."

Isn't moral relativism just the best thing there is, StA? It's SO great. :whistle:
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:32 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Why did America take these British proxies for its own? To prevent the Soviets from doing so.
Why did they keep it after the Soviet Union collapsed? Aren't there some sort of benefits to that whole hegemon thing that go beyond "Not wanting the world dominated by a Communist superpower?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:50 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Who needs a functioning ecosystem, when we can get another 1% GDP?!?
The EPA is a good idea, but needs serious reform. It's out of control, like so many Federal Agencies. A serious cutback in funding and personnel wouldn't hurt to get them to re-align their priorities.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by de officiis » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:57 am

As Congress has done less and less over the years, more and more governing authority has been transferred to administrative bodies working under the direction of the Executive. Even if you dislike Trump, you might see a silver lining with a possible Congressional renaissance.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:57 am

The EPA doesn't do any good. It's not even working at it's most basic role. If the EPA were worth saving, we wouldn't be treating countless children for lead poisoning in Michigan.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:01 am

de officiis wrote:As Congress has done less and less over the years, more and more governing authority has been transferred to administrative bodies working under the direction of the Executive. Even if you dislike Trump, you might see a silver lining with a possible Congressional renaissance.

Yep, maybe Congress will grow some balls.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:18 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:The EPA doesn't do any good. It's not even working at it's most basic role. If the EPA were worth saving, we wouldn't be treating countless children for lead poisoning in Michigan.
The EPAs original mission was 'protecting the environment and public health' and they've had some major failures of that mission. Lead Poisoning in water is one of them, the recent Colorado mine disaster, etc. The EPA has had far, far too much mission creep. The were created as a response to major environmental screw ups like the Cuyahoga River catching fire. Now they have become environmental activists and busy bodies messing with everything from Greenhouse gasses, to farmers ponds to getting into the drug war.

There mission should be strongly curtailed to industrial level pollution. Each state has their own Environmental agencies now, the EPA feds should turn that mission over to the states and deal with major polluters.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:23 am

C-Mag wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The EPA doesn't do any good. It's not even working at it's most basic role. If the EPA were worth saving, we wouldn't be treating countless children for lead poisoning in Michigan.
The EPAs original mission was 'protecting the environment and public health' and they've had some major failures of that mission. Lead Poisoning in water is one of them, the recent Colorado mine disaster, etc. The EPA has had far, far too much mission creep. The were created as a response to major environmental screw ups like the Cuyahoga River catching fire. Now they have become environmental activists and busy bodies messing with everything from Greenhouse gasses, to farmers ponds to getting into the drug war.

There mission should be strongly curtailed to industrial level pollution. Each state has their own Environmental agencies now, the EPA feds should turn that mission over to the states and deal with major polluters.

The problem is that corporations would be able to play each state agency individually, lining them up like an accordion, dealing with them one at a time. This is essentially how unions are able to stand up to the automobile industry. The industry can't negotiate with the union all at once. Each automobile corporation has to make individual deals with the same union.

I am not saying states shouldn't have their own agencies, but it helps to have one national agency that all corporations have to deal with individually instead of the other way around.

Further, the failure in Michigan had a lot to do with democratic party corruption, which totally infests the EPA at this point. They are not going to police their own. We all know this.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:00 am

BjornP wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
The democratic party pays for organized rioters to attack American citizens on the streets, and what do they say? "Both sides have bad apples", as if there exists anything comparable on the other side. Muslims committing genocide against Christians and Yazidis? Don't make the Muslims angry, and maybe we should import millions more Muslims, the very same ones committing the genocide.. Man gets beaten nearly to death with a metal flagpole for going to the wrong university lecture? People like GCF say he shouldn't have showed up or worn the wrong hat.

It's really quite revolting.
President Trump wrote:"There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers... Well, you think our country is so innocent?"
"Sure, Muslims kill alot of people, but hey, we kill alot of people, too... so like, we shouldn't really judge".

"Sure antifa beats people with flagpoles for wanting to listen to Milo, but hey, one of our guys blew up a building in Oklahoma once, so we shouldn't really judge..."

Isn't moral relativism just the best thing there is, StA? It's SO great. :whistle:
It's not the US kills people that we should be comparing, it's the quality of the kill. The US style of taking people out is much more refined, so it's more excusable because it's a more "civilized death" than what ISIS, and Muslim Extremists do.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:56 am