Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

[heydaralon]

I wonder if a lot of homicides in third world countries are simply chalked up as suicides so the police don't have to investigate certain deaths.

[Fife]

I am not sure how to prove this, but I suspect the majority of suicides in the United States are men who were alienated from their children, reduced to hopeless and abject poverty through child support/alimony, robbed by society of their identity as fathers and even as men, and then demonized for their inability to pay a hundred grand or more to the egg donor of the baby for the male privilege of their children stolen from them.

If you want to get to the root causes of suicides anyway.. Might want to look towards your own leftist politics there..

In my opinion, the vast majority of "mental health" problems exist because people were crushed by an evil system.

Every bit of that is valid. Add in to the Venn diagram the circle representing the group of white male suicides who served in the volunteer federal force overseas in the last 20 years and I bet we might start getting somewhere on this.

[heydaralon]

Sorry to keep pulling wikipedia out of my ass like a lazy paper writing middle schooler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... an_suicide
20 veterans commit suicide per day in the US. I'm reading some places that the rate for vet suicides is twice as high as it is for civilians. Thats pretty fucked.

[Speaker to Animals]

I am not sure how to prove this, but I suspect the majority of suicides in the United States are men who were alienated from their children, reduced to hopeless and abject poverty through child support/alimony, robbed by society of their identity as fathers and even as men, and then demonized for their inability to pay a hundred grand or more to the egg donor of the baby for the male privilege of their children stolen from them.

If you want to get to the root causes of suicides anyway.. Might want to look towards your own leftist politics there..

In my opinion, the vast majority of "mental health" problems exist because people were crushed by an evil system.

Every bit of that is valid. Add in to the Venn diagram the circle representing the group of white male suicides who served in the volunteer federal force overseas in the last 20 years and I bet we might start getting somewhere on this.

Honestly, they are part of the first group for the most part. Get disabled in the military? Wife leaves you and takes your children. She gets half your disability pension.

I guaran-fucking-tee you that the people who most want to shift discussions towards "mental health" to avoid slaughtering their sacred cows definitely don't want to go there if they know what's good for their sacred cows.

[Fife]

The USMC POV.

[TheReal_ND]

HOORAH

[Smitty-48]

HOORAH

Marine Corps; "Oorah".

[Ex-California]

The USMC POV.

This was epic today

[Smitty-48]

Sorry to keep pulling wikipedia out of my ass like a lazy paper writing middle schooler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... an_suicide
20 veterans commit suicide per day in the US. I'm reading some places that the rate for vet suicides is twice as high as it is for civilians. Thats pretty fucked.

Myth. Adjusted for age and sex, the military suicide rate is the same to slightly lower than the civilian rate.

"ZOMG Military Suicide Epidemic!"; liberal media fueled public sector entrenched interest fabrication.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's what the majority of Americans are willing to live with. Which is apparently where it's at.

Somebody should ask them.

Like everything else, it depends on who you talk to. Americans to do a lot of things to themselves that are not particularly healthy, but we allow it to occur because we value individual liberty and freedom.The right to own and use a firearm is just one part of that, and entails risk. We could pass a law requiring everyone to wear a sling while they shower because bathtubs are slippery when wet and people die every year from bathroom accidents, but we don't because there is no consensus that the level of risk warrants that type of imposition on our personal freedom. For better or worse, life is full of risk. It is risky to get out of bed in the morning, and it is risky to stay in bed too long.

The difference, of course, is taking a risk to yourself vs imposing a risk on others.