Speaker to Animals wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:
The problem is manifest throughout American history. For instance, when LBJ passed the Fair Housing Act, blacks moved en masse out into the near suburbs. Most of them wanted what those suburbs had and to be what the white residents in the suburbs were. But they killed the near suburbs by just moving in there. This was the origin of white flight.
Just wanting to be something doesn't make you that thing. I might want very much to be accepted in some Latin American community as a member of their society, but the truth is, I will NEVER be accepted as one of them. They can be great people and we can get along just fine, but I am not their people and they are not my people.
The worst part of this is that the Multicult entices nonwhites to attempt this, promising them that they can be just like whites, and lots of people immigrate here, have children here, and plant roots here. But they can never be what they wanted to be. They get disconnected from their own people and this is a the source of a lot angst and existential problems. I criticize the SJWs where they deserve it (which is most of the time), but the nonwhite SJWs are absolutely correct that living in a white society creates a lot of issues for them. You are surrounded by people who are not like you. People with a different shared history from your own, different values, different upbringing, etc.
You could have asked black people a long time ago how this turns out. What we did to the American black population was horrendous. We stole them from their homelands. We robbed them of their language, culture, religion, history, and even their capacity to read and learn. They were a people with a brutally imposed amnesia, transported to a foreign land and, after a time, they were set free to somehow compete with a majority population who still possessed their history, shared values, institutions, culture, and religion.
Black Americans are an example of just how bad this really is. But how long do you think it takes to find examples of Asian Americans complaining about similar problems? At the end of the day, it's fucking weird to be surrounded by people who are not like you. Your human instincts are screaming for you to find your tribe, and yet your social conditioning is telling you "this is fine". You're going to have problems from that. I don't care who you are. That's why nonwhites absolutely need their own racial spaces. There is nothing wrong with it. It's basically a triage for the damage inflicted upon people by the Multicult.
I am making a guess here from your screen name that you are of Asian descent. Do you really believe that I could immigrate to the nation from which your family originates and be accepted as one of them? Say it was Japan for the sake of argument, do you really believe that I could become truly "Japanese"? The fact is that I cannot. I can never be one of your people anymore than you can become one of mine.
You think all mixed race people have more issues because of this in the US? I doubt they have a harder time than others.
Like fuck i am Asian. I am white. i cannot like Asian movies or something without identified as such? Hwen is from comic book and Hoshino is the name of Japanse spy movie protagonist. I think Western countries are way more flexible than Japan, Korea etc... often too flexible, but way more flexible.
I am not criticizing you. I am sympathizing with you.
What you call inflexibility is just how humans work. What we are doing in America right now is only the product of social engineering and indoctrination. Once you strip that regime away, people naturally fall back into the natural order of things. Look at how prison populations exist, for example. Or read about what went down in New Orleans after Katrina. People tribe up and it sucks if you don't have that tribe. Blacks and Latinos at least accept anybody with mixed white background, but Whites and Asians typically do not.
Hafus in Japan don't exactly have a good time. They are often seen as beautiful. A lot of television personalities and models are hafus. But socially they are considered
other. Your best option is sticking with Anglos because we really don't identify racially as much as most people, even without the indoctrination. But that doesn't mean it makes sense to flood Anglo nations with foreigners.
And the sad part about it is that the people flooding into these nations can never get what they came for. They will just turn these nations into little versions of the places they escaped from.
It's really only in the case of East Asian peoples and Anglos that any of this is truly possible longrun. If we are talking some hypothetical multicultural society that can actually last for a long time, I'd put my money on some combination of Anglo and Asian (probably Japan at the top of the list).
Most other combinations would just lead to a lower-functioning mestizo society like we are seeing happening to America before our very eyes.
How do you indoctrinate in the wild west? In a country in which citizens can form militias anytime? Lately you would have more chances but it's still hard to do. Prison /=/ civilisation.Katrina could had been because of very local issues...
Why can't a company with multiethic employees be my tribe? Or a sports team?
I don't think flooding makes sense. Did the irish turn their turf into little ireland by now? The italians? Last big ethnic war they had with the rest of America?
Constitution must be respected period. You can play around with other aspects of culture, even change the damn language for all i care and it's still American.
America is lower functionning compared to what countries?
Speaker to Animals wrote:Let's look at it from the other direction.
I absolutely love Japanese culture, history, and society. I love the ritual and mode of existence.
But I can never be Japanese. I can move there and try to learn the rituals, customs, language, etc., but it's always just going to be a hollow imitation. An affectation. When it gets down to it, I will choose to solve problems in a distinctly western (really, American) way rather than a Japanese way. If I try to start a business, I will probably run it like an American would run a business rather than how a Japanese man would run it. If I get married, then I will bring to that marriage western ideals and I will treat my wife not really as a Japanese woman but as a European woman to some extent.
Now consider what happens if a huge number of Anglos like me migrate to Japan. Will we seek to draw a consensus amongst ourselves to do things our own way at least some of the time? Probably. Over time, and with more Anglos coming in, we will slowly Anglicize the Japanese culture. What we will get down the line is something closer to America on the island of Japan, but not the beautiful Japanese culture and homeland we fell in love with in the first place.
I can never be that. I can only admire Japanese culture from a distance and with my own European/American perspective.
The same is true of all the other nonwestern people who wish to move to America. They will never be truly like what they want to join, and by coming here in such large numbers, they will slowly transform it into what they left behind. In very small numbers, as Japan allows small numbers of Anglos to come, work, and reside for a time, they can come here, enrich our lives, and prosper. But for that to work, the numbers have to be so small that they will never, ever be anywhere close to even a sizable minority of the population, much less the majority.
Mass migration with the intent of becoming the majority demographic is not immigration as we conceive of it, but rather colonization. It's the invasion by one people into another people's homeland with the intent to transform it into a new nation and slowly dilute or eradicate the previous population. That's what we have now, and anything short of what we call "white nationalism" is exactly that. If you don't support that happening here, then you are by definition a white nationalist.
But if you, like many Latinos today, support mass migration of your own people because you want to overthrow the existing population and take over, then you are also an ethno-nationalist -- just a Latino nationalist.
And if you, like so many misguided liberals as we have seen here, support the destruction of your own people because somehow you believe you will have a seat at the table when Mexicans become the majority of America, then you are just a moron. Really. There's no other explanation for it. I can understand ethnic minorities wanting to overthrow the white majority. That's just human nature. But for whites to support it is a kind of suicidal insanity. These people are hopelessly indoctrinated.
Why? How can you be such a wannabe knee bender after experiencing wester civilization?
Americna culture is beatiful, it would be better for everyone if Japan would be like America. You are sick if you fell in love with that culture instead of just the art or distant history.
How do you know for sure. being an ambassador to your fucking family and bowing to elders is miserable. American culture if preserved offers so much more.
No i am fucking not a white nationalist. Just a realist taht understandt how previous groups came and became Americans.
Do the people before the irish mass migration and Italian mass migration have a seat at the table? I think their descendents have that. It's not an overthrow if they act American.
