THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Cid » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:55 am

Yeah, I didn't think the emails we're explosive, but then I also didn't know wtf pizza gate was.

Content doesn't matter if crazy is given airtime.

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Post by Fife » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:25 am

Jake Novak: So what if Trump and Perry shut down the Energy Department? No one will miss it

A real draining of the swamp would really and truly turn Imperial City into the ghost town of clerks it should be.

Department of Energy Refuses to Tell Trump Team Who's Working on Climate Change
Few things would be nicer than seeing the new administration begin to gut some of the federal bloat, especially as it pertains to the unchecked climate hysteria agenda of the past eight years. Sadly, Trump has already met with Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio to discuss the climate lunacy, so that's hardly an indicator that a wholesale purge is forthcoming.

If the work being done by these people is truly important, what are they afraid of? Bureaucrats aren't entitled to their jobs for life, despite what they might think.
Seriously, fuck these people. Trump ain't draining shit, except for your children's veins.

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Post by apeman » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:29 am

I have law school "friends" at the Energy Department and EPA, their facebook posts about their "sworn" obligation to protect the environment, and their fear for their future under Trump, does give me schadenfreude, I must admit, but mostly because these kids are massive sanctimonious turds.

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Post by ssu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:31 pm

Funny how the conspiratorial discourse of the right / alt-right is getting sooo popular. Hate seems to be very hip now.
Here's Keith Olberman's close to an epic rant from few days ago: "End of the US as an independent nation" is nearing.
Yep, the Alex Jones' type of vision of the World is getting popular ...with those opposite side of the political spectrum.

RESISTANCE!


SCUM! RUSSIAN SCUM!!! T R A I T O R S ! ! !

Resist. Peace.

...yes, perhaps not the way to tackle the issue. :?

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:37 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Clearly, some sort of Final Solution is called for.
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Post by kybkh » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:40 pm

kybkh wrote:The amount of propaganda being produced is tremendous.

For me to totally dismiss the CIA's assessment I have to create a believable narrative using my relative lack of knowledge which makes sense.

To make sense, the narrative must start with a "why".

Why would the CIA attempt to paint RU as a villain and RU/Trump as co-conspirators? Couple of believable answers...

1. To de-legitimize the president elect, so to weaken his ability to enact policy.

This sounds like a reasonable belief. Begs the question what policies the CIA are concerned with and why would they choose to begin a relationship with future POTUS on such a damaging note?

2. To attempt to upset the electoral college vote.

A tad crazier than the first unless they know enough about the chosen electors that they feel with the right "encouragement" enough electors could be flipped to make a difference. Possible I guess. I mean, I am sure there are quite of few Never Trump electors who would be easily identified. Makes more sense to me to take this all the way and attempt to get Trump tossed than put you organization at odds with POTUS on day 1.

3. Imagine if the "CIA" really only consist of Mike Morrell and his network of friends. You know, the ones who probably spent the last year picking out offices under the belief that HRC would win easily and Morrell was on track to be appointed head guy at the agency. Now they are mad and possibly scared of being posted in Siberia so they are attempting to undermine any structural changes to intel agencies Trump might suggest by creating a narrative that Trump just want's to limit the CIA's budget to XXX and give more to DHS because he loves Putin and is being vindictive.

Certainly the craziest, but to me it is most believable.
Looks like option 3.

Mike Morell, Cited in ‘Russia Hacking’ Stories, Works for Longtime Clinton Aide Phillippe Reines

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016 ... ng-points/


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Post by kybkh » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:07 pm

ssu wrote:Funny how the conspiratorial discourse of the right / alt-right is getting sooo popular. Hate seems to be very hip now.
Here's Keith Olberman's close to an epic rant from few days ago: "End of the US as an independent nation" is nearing.
Yep, the Alex Jones' type of vision of the World is getting popular ...with those opposite side of the political spectrum.

RESISTANCE!


SCUM! RUSSIAN SCUM!!! T R A I T O R S ! ! !

Resist. Peace.

...yes, perhaps not the way to tackle the issue. :?
IMO this is more in line with a Hanoi Jane moment. Is this the fascist we were warned about??? "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag"

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Post by ssu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:17 pm

kybkh wrote:Why would the CIA attempt to paint RU as a villain and RU/Trump as co-conspirators? Couple of believable answers...

Looks like option 3.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016 ... ng-points/


Mike Morell, Cited in ‘Russia Hacking’ Stories, Works for Longtime Clinton Aide Phillippe Reines
Looks like extensive following of Breitbart...

Kybkh, how could I be polite in saying that's a bit too far out. Let me reason why I think so.

First, what about Mike Pompeo? You do understand that the CIA will have a new boss and that this boss will likely be in charge of the people there. The whole idea that the CIA would fabricate something and continue with it a few weeks to go to the new administration getting to power is simply illogical.

Secondly, please tell now just how the other intelligence services hopped on to tell the same "FABRICATED" story? Did this Morell guy work or worked in the NSA? Did this guy work in the DHS? Or why would the German intelligence service BNA say similar things about the US elections (See Russian hackers targeting Germany: intelligence chief). Are they really after Trump and pro-Hillary? Does some McCain or Graham work for the Democrats also? Come on now. Even the FBI did acknowledge that Russians had hacked. They just weren't making similar conclusions.

Intelligence organizations do their job, and Presidents hate when they get information what they don't want to hear and want to hear information that backs up their crazy ideas. Hence their directors play political games to get into the inner circle of the President. That's the truth. Perfect example is the "Slamdunk" that Trump referred to: The CIA finally got the message that they have to produce the evidence what the White House wants or they aren't a team player. And then they went with what the Vice President's office wanted them to say. The Valerie Plame affair tells it how it is.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:10 pm

Kath wrote:I'm not seeing much in the way of swamp draining. Swamp filling, perhaps. These picks...oy.. :roll:
What do you mean Kath?

Now there are Two Goldman Sachs guys in the Trump administration, an administration with a total personal wealth what now, 14 billion? I think 6 in the administration were donors to his campaign.

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As I said, can possibly be the most corrupt administration ever, which can tarnish even those sides that are genuinely good at their jobs. Hope it won't, but could happen. It could be seen already in the picks Trump had during the election that the administration would have a lot of rich people working in it.