F35 vs. A10?

[Smitty-48]

Thanks Barack O'Ballard.

Military acquisition on a massive scale is like building an NHL team.

You have to stick to the program and continue to fix the problems from within.

Fake Reform is like the Leafs media and fanbase.

Constantly calling for you to trade your picks and prospects away now.

For a Super Duper Commander Data Drone perfect player which isn't out there.

Or maybe you need more Truculence!, so trade away elite skill for an A-10.

According to the poll, this forum want more Truculence!, and want to trade elite skill for an A-10.

Sad.

F-35 is Mitch Marner, A-10 is Milan Lucic.

F-22 is Connor McDavid, but Obama drank the Fake Reform Kool Aid; 'Boondoggle'

[StCapps]

Military acquisition on a massive scale is like building an NHL team.

You have to stick to the program and continue to fix the problems from within.

Fake Reform is like the Leafs media and fanbase.

Constantly calling for you to trade your picks and prospects away now.

For a Super Duper Commander Data Drone perfect player which isn't out there.

Or maybe you need more Truculence!, so trade away elite skill for an A-10.

According to the poll, this forum want more Truculence!, and want to trade elite skill for an A-10.

Sad.

F-35 is Mitch Marner, A-10 is Milan Lucic.

F-22 is Connor McDavid, but Obama drank the Fake Reform Kool Aid; 'Boondoggle'

Boondoggle Kool Aid is a helluva drug. America passing on Connor McDavid is an epic fail. Well I suppose it's more like they are relegating him to the bottom six.

[Smitty-48]

According to the poll, this forum want more Truculence!, and want to trade elite skill for an A-10.

Sad.

F-35 is Mitch Marner, A-10 is Milan Lucic.

F-22 is Connor McDavid, but Obama drank the Fake Reform Kool Aid; 'Boondoggle'

Boondoggle Kool Aid is a helluva drug. America passing on Connor McDavid is an epic fail. Well I suppose it's more like they are relegating him to the bottom six.

They have a Connor McDavid, Fake Reform just wants the A-10 Lucic on his wing instead of the F-35 Marner.

Chia Pet Failz.

[StCapps]

F-35 is Mitch Marner, A-10 is Milan Lucic.

F-22 is Connor McDavid, but Obama drank the Fake Reform Kool Aid; 'Boondoggle'

Boondoggle Kool Aid is a helluva drug. America passing on Connor McDavid is an epic fail. Well I suppose it's more like they are relegating him to the bottom six.

They have a Connor McDavid, Fake Reform just wants the A-10 Lucic on his wing instead of the F-35 Marner.

Chia Pet Failz.

Yeah but they aren't giving McDavid enough ice time, Thanks Obamarelli.

[Smitty-48]

Boondoggle Kool Aid is a helluva drug. America passing on Connor McDavid is an epic fail. Well I suppose it's more like they are relegating him to the bottom six.

They have a Connor McDavid, Fake Reform just wants the A-10 Lucic on his wing instead of the F-35 Marner.

Chia Pet Failz.

Yeah but they aren't giving McDavid enough ice time, Thanks Obamarelli.

Obama was a creature of the media, the media loves them some Fake Reform, Millerism is the best click bait.

F-35 Doomsday is a click bait cow, so upon getting Obama to 'replace' F-22 with F-35, they immediately switched to trashing F-35 with an identical Fake Reform smear campaign.

Were they able to get F-35 to be replaced with the Super Drones, they would immediately start trashing the Super Drones.

Fake Reform is an entrenched interest unto itself; liberal media fake jobs.

[Speaker to Animals]

F-35 does not even have a suitable range for Canada's purposes. Canada has a huge frontier to defend in the north. F-35's effective combat range without tankers must be somewhere around 200-300 nautical miles.

Not even accounting for the absurdity of flying single engine aircraft over subarctic environments, for the F-35 to work at all, Canada would need significant investment in tankers.

There are just so many drawbacks to that platform that it's not worth it. The political corruption could foist that fucking thing on the CAF just like it did to the USAF, but realistically they probably want something more appropriate and effective than that boondoggle.

You almost are better off with the F-15X, honestly. It's cheaper than an F-22 (assuming we ever get those things in production again). It's payload is absolutely massive, with more than twenty missiles loaded on it, and it can launch the newer long-range hypersonic missiles (which F-35 never will without pylons that will negate the stealth advantage you paid so much for). It's range is fucking boss. You can get your aircraft to the rest of the world without having to rely on American tankers refueling you over the oceans.

F-35 is highly overrated. For it's actual role (which is not a main air superiority fighter at all, but support roles like the F-16 was designed for), the stealth actually hinders it's performance anyway.

[Speaker to Animals]

I sort of wonder if this was Lockmart's plan all along. They can bilk the tax payer for the F-35 scam and, when the truth becomes absolutely clear to the American public that this boondoggle is a threat to national security, we will be forced to fall back on the original plan. But the original plan involved another Lockmart product that actually works well. To get that going again, they basically will need a completely new model, with the avionics tech they developed for the F-35 adapted to the new platform. Which means more money for Lockmart.

To just tell Lockmart to die in a fire means we would probably spend more for somebody like Boeing to build a new fighter from the ground up.

Meanwhile, Boeing is working on the actual game-changers that are suborbital strike aircraft, but those aren't going to be adopted in the USAF inventory for probably twenty years.

[Smitty-48]

Canada certainly should not buy the F-35 for the NORAD tasking.

Not because of range.

The F-35 combat radius of 600 nautical miles on internal fuel, is better than the CF-18 with external tanks.

The reason is simply that NORAD is a fake mission.

The Russians are not going attack Canada with bombers like it's the 1950's

Even if they did, the Americans would do the fighting for Canada.

NORAD air policing is not really a priority for Canada, there's only 4 jets on alert for all of Canada.

The reason Canada has fighter jets, is to bomb other countries, not defend the continent.

In reality, Canada doesn't need to do anything.

Canada is the ultimate Free Rider, Canada should disband the military altogether like Iceland did.

The reason why Canada has not bought the F-35 has nothing to do with performance.

The lefties just don't want to spend money on it, they want to spend on socialist welfare instead.

Canada won't buy anything from Boeing, because Boeing has a 300% tariff on Bombardier in Quebec.

Thus Canada is buying no replacement fighters at all, Free Riding ftw.

If Canada doesn't buy F-35, which is very plausible and in fact likely, Canada will do as New Zealand does.

No fighters at all, leave it to the Americans to do, the RNZAF hasn't had any fighters for decades.

The Canadian military is only a political instrument, it's not capable of fighting wars, it's a Token Force.

As such, Canada has no military requirements, everything is optional, any capability can be jettisoned.

[Speaker to Animals]

No fucking way combat radius is 600 nm. That's probably assuming you cruise somewhere, launch a missile, and cruise back home. A realistic figure is more like 200-300 nm, which is woefully inadequate.

[Smitty-48]

The CF-18 Canada is using now has a radius of 200-300 nautical miles, so range is not an issue.

NORAD is not an issue, Canada doesn't really care, the government just does it to keep up appearances.

Token Force.

In terms of tankers, Canada only has two, but they are not used for NORAD, they don't go up north.

For NORAD, the USAF provides all the tankers.

Token Force.

Even as a LMT shareholder, I just write Canada off as a peacenik country which isn't worth the effort.