I was hoping that after a few days the spergs on /pol/ would die down and we would have an easy to digest theory by now but these guys are still really worked up.
Postby Speaker to Animals » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:13 am
It's starting to seem like the feds are freaking the fuck out after sitting on the motive all these days. They must have some serious damage control operation in play right now.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Someone care to explain how “physically impossible” it is for someone to pick up a weapon and squeeze the trigger into a crowd?
So you are admitting that a gun by itself can't kill someone?
:facepalm:
Ok, so we are building this guy up as 'specially trained' to do what he did - why? Serious question - why could someone not pick up that gun and shoot it into a crowd for 10 minutes?
Postby The Conservative » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:47 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Someone care to explain how “physically impossible” it is for someone to pick up a weapon and squeeze the trigger into a crowd?
So you are admitting that a gun by itself can't kill someone?
:facepalm:
Ok, so we are building this guy up as 'specially trained' to do what he did - why? Serious question - why could someone not pick up that gun and shoot it into a crowd for 10 minutes?
You obviously have not shot a rifle that can shoot more than one bullet at a time... the recoil lifts/moves the barrel, so that your first shot is almost guaranteed not to hit where the second one hit. The only, and I mean only time this does not happen is if you are trained to be ready for it, and have learned how to readjust on the fly.
A full auto does not stay in one place when shot, a bipod will not make your gun stay on the ground.
Take this as an example, they are kids having "fun" with full/semi-autos... notice what happens when they shoot?
The Conservative wrote:
So you are admitting that a gun by itself can't kill someone?
:facepalm:
Ok, so we are building this guy up as 'specially trained' to do what he did - why? Serious question - why could someone not pick up that gun and shoot it into a crowd for 10 minutes?
You obviously have not shot a rifle that can shoot more than one bullet at a time... the recoil lifts/moves the barrel, so that your first shot is almost guaranteed not to hit where the second one hit. The only, and I mean only time this does not happen is if you are trained to be ready for it, and have learned how to readjust on the fly.
A full auto does not stay in one place when shot, a bipod will not make your gun stay on the ground.
Take this as an example, they are kids having "fun" with full/semi-autos... notice what happens when they shoot?
Again, not something that's difficult to learn. Besides, he'd have a hard time missing that giant crowd from an elevated position.
Postby The Conservative » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:32 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
:facepalm:
Ok, so we are building this guy up as 'specially trained' to do what he did - why? Serious question - why could someone not pick up that gun and shoot it into a crowd for 10 minutes?
You obviously have not shot a rifle that can shoot more than one bullet at a time... the recoil lifts/moves the barrel, so that your first shot is almost guaranteed not to hit where the second one hit. The only, and I mean only time this does not happen is if you are trained to be ready for it, and have learned how to readjust on the fly.
A full auto does not stay in one place when shot, a bipod will not make your gun stay on the ground.
Take this as an example, they are kids having "fun" with full/semi-autos... notice what happens when they shoot?
Again, not something that's difficult to learn. Besides, he'd have a hard time missing that giant crowd from an elevated position.
You could, and he did, and we saw the result, but if he was trained... there would be many more dead.
The Conservative wrote:
You obviously have not shot a rifle that can shoot more than one bullet at a time... the recoil lifts/moves the barrel, so that your first shot is almost guaranteed not to hit where the second one hit. The only, and I mean only time this does not happen is if you are trained to be ready for it, and have learned how to readjust on the fly.
A full auto does not stay in one place when shot, a bipod will not make your gun stay on the ground.
Take this as an example, they are kids having "fun" with full/semi-autos... notice what happens when they shoot?
Again, not something that's difficult to learn. Besides, he'd have a hard time missing that giant crowd from an elevated position.
You could, and he did, and we saw the result, but if he was trained... there would be many more dead.
Well then, why would we have this..
Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.
Oh, right. To protect gun owners from facing reality, by claiming expertise over the "illiterate" plebs, and pretending there's no problem here.
It's a good thing he wasn't as well trained as someone like say, TC.
Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.
This is complete nonsense like the reporters that are suddenly gun experts telling people all it takes to convert an AR into auto is an Allen wrench.
Postby The Conservative » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:10 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Again, not something that's difficult to learn. Besides, he'd have a hard time missing that giant crowd from an elevated position.
You could, and he did, and we saw the result, but if he was trained... there would be many more dead.
Well then, why would we have this..
Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.
Oh, right. To protect gun owners from facing reality, by claiming expertise over the "illiterate" plebs, and pretending there's no problem here.
Wal Mart sold bumpstocks... any person with a gun license could have purchased it.