The Left Does not Reason

[TheReal_ND]

I thought the more imporant part of jbird's post was the part about the Nazis not just killing Jews... which probably does add up to about 11 million or so deliberate killings of civilians, including own citizens, and I thought that was the part you primarily referred to.

I thought I just showed you how they are lying to you but apparently the brain washing is strong with this one. Who do you think writes the fucking history books? Look around you my man. Who is the owner of google, Facebook and YouTube? Please take a second look bjorn.

[BjornP]

Dude, the Jews don't write "the history books". You think historians meet in deep, underground bunkers where the Secret King of the Jews tell them what to write, or that only Jews write history books, generally or on the Holocaust? Dude, you can believe in whatever you like, man, but don't bother trying to convince me of those "Jews run the world" stories.

[clubgop]

LVH has admitted his impotence, my insults should serve as Viagra. My insults are poetry and don't hurt anybody because whenever you organize and take back the left from the SJW/Corporate establishment/Media complex they are going to really cut at your core. When they call you racist, they have and they will. When they call you homophobic, they have and they will. When they call you Islamophobic, they have and they will. When they call you all the other -ist and -phobics, and they have and they will. If you wither or all you can muster is a tsk tsk, schoolmarm lecture you will lose, again and the preservation of basic rights and Western Civilization will rest solely on the shoulders of people like me. You don't want that, I am not even sure I want that.

Ha.

It's a struggle on both sides. I'm not sure our civilization would go well if Pat Robertson were in charge of things and you had to tell your kids about evolution in a secret room under your house.

Not Pat Robertson. Jerry Falwell SR? Yeah, sure. Gary Bauer? Maybe. Pat Robertson, Rick Santorum? Nah. Billy Graham? I think would surprise everyone. The right, pleasantly, the left, horror.

And before you say he failed to boil the SJWs in oil, Trump didn't do it to the religious right either. I think Jerry Falwell Jr. has some position in his admin. And he pretended to be pro life and all that.

Listen here you pretentious, smug, mother fucker. Don't you ever presume to give me .... such a wonderful idea.

Trump didnt do a damn single thing to the religious right, didnt have to. They came to him. Say what you want about evangelicals they have a sense of self awareness. White working class people use to fill the pews and they want them back, mutual interest. They proselytize, they spread the word, "all are welcome." They have a milennia of institutional knowledge about attracting more flies with hope, salvation, and honey, over hellfire , brimstone, and vinegar, which by the way is the beginning of a bangin salsa. If anyone can shut the fuck up, get in line, and get with the program, it is them. I do not know if SJWs can do the same.

[clubgop]

I seriously never understood that explanation. You can only have efficient government if you're alike?

Just isolate to medical care. One example, the treatment, care, and screening for sickle cell and to a lesser extent Tay Sachs is highly specialized, resource intense and expensive. How much of that do you guys have to deal with? Economies of scale.

[DrYouth]

I, and others, have already said this is an issue we will have to confront. I wrote my last thesis on this very topic. It is inevitable. Something will have to be done. A paradigm change is coming.

Who knows what the solution is? We are talking about a Fermi window. The answer is not likely to be something that our minds are conditioned to accept.

The easy path that is posited is that we will all get free money. I strongly oppose that course. That will never work. Old work is dying. New ideas about work will need to be considered.

Ancient groups, that existed along egalitarian lines, were rendered obsolete upon the emergence of complex societies.

We could very well be on the cusp of a new era, that like those of the past, rendered old ideas obsolete.

Individual value hasn't been a defining value for some time. People have been able to get along while being not all that valuable. That might be drawing to a close.

It's a common trope of sci-fi that that the starfarers do all the intrepid work, and the commoners are simply dragged along. That might not be the reality we face.

We might face a future where only the exceptional are carried along. Why carry the dead weight in a world where economic considerations are irrelevant? If robots and computers do everything, why do we need dumb consumers? Silicon and microchips carry the economy. What use are consumers in a galactic experience?

Interesting post Okee...
Scary worldview... only the exceptional are carried along.
But this is a scarcity model... and there aren't that many reasons to believe we are entering a scarcity age.

Most of your fears seem to be based on the premise won't be ambitious if they are secure. i.e. they won't contribute if they don't need to.
But there is lots of evidence that people want to contribute for reasons other than reward and punishment.
Dan Ariely does a lot of great Ted Talks on this topic.

[jbird4049]

Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination

You don't know what you are talking about.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.jta.org/ ... orians/amp

WASHINGTON (JTA) — “Five million non-Jews died in the Holocaust.”

It’s a statement that shows up regularly in declarations about the Nazi era. It was implied in a Facebook post by the Israel Defense Forces’ spokesperson’s unit last week marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. And it was asserted in an article shared by the Trump White House in defense of its controversial Holocaust statement the same day omitting references to the 6 million Jewish victims.

It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis.

Indeed, say those close to the late Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, its progenitor, it is a number that was intended to increase sympathy for Jewish suffering but which now is more often used to obscure it.

The absolutely lowest number of Jews who died is three million. in anything I have read, or heard of anywhere, aside from places like Stormfront. I think that a rather large number of butchered men, women, and children. Don't you?

The Nazis' plan was to exterminate almost the entire non ethically German portion of the population between Prussia and the Ural Mountains. The extermination of the Jews being the most important part. So they got the Jews, then lost the war.

[TheReal_ND]

Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination

You don't know what you are talking about.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.jta.org/ ... orians/amp

WASHINGTON (JTA) — “Five million non-Jews died in the Holocaust.”

It’s a statement that shows up regularly in declarations about the Nazi era. It was implied in a Facebook post by the Israel Defense Forces’ spokesperson’s unit last week marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. And it was asserted in an article shared by the Trump White House in defense of its controversial Holocaust statement the same day omitting references to the 6 million Jewish victims.

It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis.

Indeed, say those close to the late Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, its progenitor, it is a number that was intended to increase sympathy for Jewish suffering but which now is more often used to obscure it.

The absolutely lowest number of Jews who died is three million. in anything I have read, or heard of anywhere, aside from places like Stormfront. I think that a rather large number of butchered men, women, and children. Don't you?

The Nazis' plan was to exterminate almost the entire non ethically German portion of the population between Prussia and the Ural Mountains. The extermination of the Jews being the most important part. So they got the Jews, then lost the war.

As far as actually exterminating Jews, much of that very real number (6 million is a complete myth,) was in fact done by partisans that couldn't wait to off their land lords as it were. Kind of a time honored tradition with Jews and times of civil unrest, not at all unique to the eastern front.

The extermination of people in general by the german army on the eastern front was encouraged its true. Germans have always had a reputation for being ruthless.

Concerning the concentration camps, many Jews died. But so would have our Japanese camp population if we lost the ability to feed them and the camps were overrun by disease. Hitler preferred to relocate them to begin with before the war even started. Once it got underway he couldn't have them about freely as a subversive element. His memory of WWI wouldn't permit that.

[C-Mag]

The absolutely lowest number of Jews who died is three million. in anything I have read, or heard of anywhere, aside from places like Stormfront. I think that a rather large number of butchered men, women, and children. Don't you?

The Nazis' plan was to exterminate almost the entire non ethically German portion of the population between Prussia and the Ural Mountains. The extermination of the Jews being the most important part. So they got the Jews, then lost the war.

3 Million is very conservative as far as anything I've read.

Gotta love that Nazi Science they had it going on

[TheReal_ND]

Nothing wrong with trying to enhance favorable genetics. Could solve a lot of problems. Gee... I wonder why we quit doing that. Hmm I wonder...

[C-Mag]

Nothing wrong with trying to enhance favorable genetics. Could solve a lot of problems. Gee... I wonder why we quit doing that. Hmm I wonder...

Nothing wrong with it as long as you use the best available science