The Right and the Left need each other - debate

[Ph64]

60 out of 100 is a failing grade. If you can't get 60% of the country to agree that something is good, it's probably not good.

Simply not true. The people don't always know what is good for them and sometimes the best legislation isn't the most popular. It's an arbitrarily high bar, and it serves no purpose at this point except to slow down reform and stop the other party from getting credit for passing good legislation by making that bar higher. Popular governance does not equal quality governance and just because 60% of the Senate isn't on board with a bill doesn't mean it sucks, they are just as likely to oppose good bills as bad ones.

98 senators voted to approve the patriot act in 2001, and like 89 're-approved it in 2006... therefore the patriot act, warrantless searches/spying on everyone, and the erosion of your rights... must be a good thing? Or... maybe you just don't know what's good for you. BOHICA.

[Smitty-48]

Warrantless surveillance wasn't in the PATRIOT Act, the Bush Administration was executing warrantless surveillance just under the President's Article II power "Commander of the Army and the Navy" in time of war, it was, ostensibly at least, a war measure under executive authority, not legislative, they didn't even inform Congress that they were doing it.

In the end, the constitution, as written by the Framers, has always included broad executive authority to prosecute wars, and with seperation of powers, you wouldn't be able to elect a Congress which could legislate those away from the Executive, if you invoke the constitution, you have to invoke it all, and that includes the broad executive authority in time of war and/or national emergency, and if the Congress tried to pass a law which removed those authorities, the Executive could simply invoke the constitution to override them.

[TheReal_ND]

CNN is shilling this hard for war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6SnIvQKN1Y&app=desktop

[Smitty-48]

This was just a one off, Trump fired a few TLAM's in there, deliberately targeting them to hit jack shit, he's not starting a war, it was just a stunt, a few TLAM's popping off is not a war, by American standards, that's peacetime, even if they wanted to, they can't get an actual war going, the Russians are in the way.

This was more like Operation El Dorado Canyon, when Reagan bombed Libya in 86', although even that was a bigger operation.

[Okeefenokee]

I think we've decided to stay broken up. Sorry, doc.

There was a chance when the missiles were fired, but the left went all war crazy so that's over.

[Okeefenokee]

I think you are naive to not realize the kinds of legislation an unhindered majority would pass. Especially in a time of crisis. Imagine a congress filled with Trump-like bots.... we'll have Muslims & Mexicans in prison camps, the wall is 400 feet high and the top 1% gets freed from the burden of paying taxes.

Now, imagine that same congress but with Hillary-bots instead.... I can't even imagine the shit show that would ensue.

totally not a loon

camps, people. camps.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I think we've decided to stay broken up. Sorry, doc.

There was a chance when the missiles were fired, but the left went all war crazy so that's over.

So I'm not on the Left after all... cool.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think you are naive to not realize the kinds of legislation an unhindered majority would pass. Especially in a time of crisis. Imagine a congress filled with Trump-like bots.... we'll have Muslims & Mexicans in prison camps, the wall is 400 feet high and the top 1% gets freed from the burden of paying taxes.

Now, imagine that same congress but with Hillary-bots instead.... I can't even imagine the shit show that would ensue.

totally not a loon

camps, people. camps.

Four decades of drug abuse and hard living..

[TheReal_ND]

>terrorist attack
>muh solidarity, they will not devide us
>we need to be accepting no hatred just love
>media loses focus on said attack
>average people who were not directly affected start forgetting
>we wait for the cycle to repeat itself

People won't do anything because they are so fucking cucked into a lefty liberal mentality.

Notice how Teresa May and the queen have both said something along the lines of "this just proves how strong we are, strength and solidarity we will prevail etc" meanwhile showing not a shred of fucking details on how they plan to prevent this or do something about it.

Nobody will dare say anything out of being labelled a "racist" or "fascist"

Many of us have been programmed. Sheep easily led to the slaughter and when such slaughter occurs they are led down another path of acceptance and blame deferring until the next attack occurs.

We are fucked unless someone comes up with something.

[clubgop]

>terrorist attack
>muh solidarity, they will not devide us
>we need to be accepting no hatred just love
>media loses focus on said attack
>average people who were not directly affected start forgetting
>we wait for the cycle to repeat itself

People won't do anything because they are so fucking cucked into a lefty liberal mentality.

Notice how Teresa May and the queen have both said something along the lines of "this just proves how strong we are, strength and solidarity we will prevail etc" meanwhile showing not a shred of fucking details on how they plan to prevent this or do something about it.

Nobody will dare say anything out of being labelled a "racist" or "fascist"

Many of us have been programmed. Sheep easily led to the slaughter and when such slaughter occurs they are led down another path of acceptance and blame deferring until the next attack occurs.

We are fucked unless someone comes up with something.

Somethings arw being done but look they are not going to take drastic over the top measures because they don't have to. The looney left are useless and everyone sees it. They will do nothing except exacerbate the problem. Open borders, gun control, strangle free speech. GCF party's platform, take solace in the fact that shit doesnt win elections.