Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:18 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:03 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:54 pm
PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:14 pm

Is a witness really a witness if they never actually witnessed anything? :think:
Hundreds have been sent to death row on far less credible testimony than US ambassadors and decorated lieutenant colonels.
so let's lower the standards of protections for US individuals instead of raising the standards of protections for US individuals? weak
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:24 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:17 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:11 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:43 pm


Based on direct evidence. They actually pointed a finger and witnessed actual criminal events. These supposed Ambassadors and others just played whisper down the partisan bitch alley. If the hearsay rules were in effect for those hearings those people wouldn't even be allowed to testify in the first place. Partisan hack bitch wants to say this isn't a criminal court thing but then compare it to that process when it's convenient to his bitch narrative.
My autism may be getting the better of me, but what you just said seemed to be two separate thought processes in one run-on paragraph.

Are you agreeing with him for an instance than insulting him or am I missing a nuance here?
Where do you see agreement or two separate thought processes?
You went from saying that there was evidence to someone is a political hack. At least by what I read.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:49 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:24 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:17 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:11 pm


My autism may be getting the better of me, but what you just said seemed to be two separate thought processes in one run-on paragraph.

Are you agreeing with him for an instance than insulting him or am I missing a nuance here?
Where do you see agreement or two separate thought processes?
You went from saying that there was evidence to someone is a political hack. At least by what I read.
No. He was comparing felonious criminal acts to this whisper down the alley shit of the hearing. He thinks witness testimony and trials work like a job interview. If you like a witness's resume everything they say is gospel. It the same thinking that makes a 16 year old swedish teenager an expert on anything.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:51 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:18 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:03 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:54 pm


Hundreds have been sent to death row on far less credible testimony than US ambassadors and decorated lieutenant colonels.
so let's lower the standards of protections for US individuals instead of raising the standards of protections for US individuals? weak
It's never the equal distribution of wealth just the equal distribution of misery.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:00 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:51 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:18 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:03 pm

so let's lower the standards of protections for US individuals instead of raising the standards of protections for US individuals? weak
It's never the equal distribution of wealth just the equal distribution of misery.
indeed
I have a lot of sympathy for African Americans but a lot of the arguments boil down to this crab bucket mentality and in a democracy no one is going to vote for that shit.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:45 pm

Just so I can validitate my disinterest in this story... does/can this impeachment thing at any point lead to an actual judicial trial by impartial jury, or is the whole process a political one?
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Hastur » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:01 am

BjornP wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:45 pm
Just so I can validitate my disinterest in this story... does/can this impeachment thing at any point lead to an actual judicial trial by impartial jury, or is the whole process a political one?
It should technically lead to a trial in the Senate. The Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. Witnesses can be called by both sides for cross-examination. Then the senators vote and if they get a two-third majority for convicting the President he is removed from office.

I don't think that will happen this time. They will just vote as quickly as possible and throw it out. That is why Nacy is stalling now and not sending over the paperwork that will start the process. She wants to keep the show going for as long as possible. Possibly even using it in the election campaign.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:02 am

brewster wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:22 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:45 am
There is more proof that Biden was telling the president of Ukraine at the time to stop the investigation because his son was on the board of a company known for corruption... than actually having the backing of the president.

As for the reset, hearsay is not proof, hence why I asked you about was there?
No, there's not proof Biden was acting in self interest. He was transparently and provably acting for his government. I don't expect you to concede proof of Trump's actions, that would be too much, but do you still consider it a crime if true? Many of your fellows do not, including Mr Trump.
You can't prove that wasn't what Trump was doing. You just assume Biden is innocent and Trump is guilty because you're a Demohack.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:05 am

BjornP wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:45 pm
Just so I can validitate my disinterest in this story... does/can this impeachment thing at any point lead to an actual judicial trial by impartial jury, or is the whole process a political one?
Yes there is no need to be interested, nothing will come of it, it's entirely political process that is dead on arrival in Senate. The articles of impeachment didn't even charge him with a crime.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:06 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:01 am
BjornP wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:45 pm
Just so I can validitate my disinterest in this story... does/can this impeachment thing at any point lead to an actual judicial trial by impartial jury, or is the whole process a political one?
It should technically lead to a trial in the Senate. The Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. Witnesses can be called by both sides for cross-examination. Then the senators vote and if they get a two-third majority for convicting the President he is removed from office.

I don't think that will happen this time. They will just vote as quickly as possible and throw it out. That is why Nacy is stalling now and not sending over the paperwork that will start the process. She wants to keep the show going for as long as possible. Possibly even using it in the election campaign.
Nancy wants it to end as quickly as possible, or she would have waited to subpoena certain witnesses instead of rushing it through the house without there testimony. The Democrats can't use impeachment during the campaign, it will be Trump using it, it doesn't play to the Democrats advantage, it plays to Trump's advantage. If the Democrats run on impeachment that would be the dumbest move ever.
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