-
pineapplemike
- Posts: 4650
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:34 pm
Post
by pineapplemike » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:31 pm
Verizon throttled fire department’s “unlimited” data during Calif. wildfire
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... -wildfire/
Verizon Wireless' throttling of a fire department that uses its data services has been submitted as evidence in a lawsuit that seeks to reinstate federal net neutrality rules.
"County Fire has experienced throttling by its ISP, Verizon," Santa Clara County Fire Chief Anthony Bowden wrote in a declaration. "This throttling has had a significant impact on our ability to provide emergency services. Verizon imposed these limitations despite being informed that throttling was actively impeding County Fire's ability to provide crisis-response and essential emergency services."
Bowden's declaration was submitted in an addendum to a brief filed by 22 state attorneys general, the District of Columbia, Santa Clara County, Santa Clara County Central Fire Protection District, and the California Public Utilities Commission. The government agencies are seeking to overturn the recent repeal of net neutrality rules in a lawsuit they filed against the Federal Communications Commission in the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.
...
"In the midst of our response to the Mendocino Complex Fire, County Fire discovered the data connection for OES 5262 was being throttled by Verizon, and data rates had been reduced to 1/200, or less, than the previous speeds," Bowden wrote. "These reduced speeds severely interfered with the OES 5262's ability to function effectively. My Information Technology staff communicated directly with Verizon via email about the throttling, requesting it be immediately lifted for public safety purposes."
Verizon did not immediately restore full speeds to the device, however.
"Verizon representatives confirmed the throttling, but rather than restoring us to an essential data transfer speed, they indicated that County Fire would have to switch to a new data plan at more than twice the cost, and they would only remove throttling after we contacted the Department that handles billing and switched to the new data plan," Bowden wrote.
...
Santa Clara apparently switched to the $99.99 plan, more than doubling its bill. "While Verizon ultimately did lift the throttling, it was only after County Fire subscribed to a new, more expensive plan," Bowden wrote in his declaration.
Even if Verizon's throttling didn't technically violate the no-throttling rule, Santa Clara could have complained to the FCC under the now-removed net neutrality system, which allowed Internet users to file complaints about any unjust or unreasonable prices and practices. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's decision to deregulate the broadband industry eliminated that complaint option and also limited consumers' rights to sue Internet providers over unjust or unreasonable behavior.
-
Speaker to Animals
- Posts: 38685
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:59 pm
Post
by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:43 pm
Throttling all the customer's data for excessive bandwidth usage isn't a problem in that sense. People should pay according to their data usage.
During an emergency, a VP should have said fuck no to throttling, though.
In my experiences with wireless execs and their customer service, the people on the phones are just following a preset agenda of how to proceed that involves moving people to higher tier data plans.
Fire Department should instead have contacted something like public relations to get word up to an actual executive. I'd be surprised if one of those guys wouldn't give them unlimited data until the fires go out.
-
C-Mag
- Posts: 28305
- Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm
Post
by C-Mag » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:29 pm
PLATA O PLOMO
Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
-
Okeefenokee
- Posts: 12950
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:27 pm
- Location: The Great Place
Post
by Okeefenokee » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:36 pm
“When I am Weaker Thn You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles.”
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
viewtopic.php?p=60751#p60751
-
Okeefenokee
- Posts: 12950
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:27 pm
- Location: The Great Place
Post
by Okeefenokee » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Dan's hero,
SENATOR RON WYDEN DEMANDS “CONSEQUENCES” FOR PLATFORMS THAT DON’T “REMOVE PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES”
“I think what the Alex Jones case shows, we’re gonna really be looking at what the consequences are for just leaving common decency in the dust,” said Wyden.
“What I’m gonna be trying to do in my legislation is to really lay out what the consequences are when somebody who is a bad actor, somebody who really doesn’t meet the decency principles that reflect our values, if that bad actor blows by the bounds of common decency, I think you gotta have a way to make sure that stuff is taken down,” he added.
https://www.infowars.com/senator-ron-wy ... lex-jones/
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
viewtopic.php?p=60751#p60751
-
SuburbanFarmer
- Posts: 25279
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
- Location: Ohio
Post
by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:25 pm
Okeefenokee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Dan's hero,
SENATOR RON WYDEN DEMANDS “CONSEQUENCES” FOR PLATFORMS THAT DON’T “REMOVE PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES”
“I think what the Alex Jones case shows, we’re gonna really be looking at what the consequences are for just leaving common decency in the dust,” said Wyden.
“What I’m gonna be trying to do in my legislation is to really lay out what the consequences are when somebody who is a bad actor, somebody who really doesn’t meet the decency principles that reflect our values, if that bad actor blows by the bounds of common decency, I think you gotta have a way to make sure that stuff is taken down,” he added.
https://www.infowars.com/senator-ron-wy ... lex-jones/
Wow... for-real censorship.
This is what that looks like. Not facebook problems. This is the real deal.
-
C-Mag
- Posts: 28305
- Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm
Post
by C-Mag » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:31 pm
Wasn't Wyden Dan's boy, 'one of the good ones'
ACLU: Alex Jones ban could set dangerous social media precedent
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/aclu ... ar-BBMgh47
PLATA O PLOMO
Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
-
Okeefenokee
- Posts: 12950
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:27 pm
- Location: The Great Place
Post
by Okeefenokee » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:22 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
viewtopic.php?p=60751#p60751
-
clubgop
- Posts: 7978
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:47 pm
Post
by clubgop » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:01 pm
Yeah he was, I have no idea what the hell this is about or where this comes from with him. Like he is a Democrat from Oregan so I would say he was one of the "good" ones cause they dont exist but he was one of the tolerable ones.
-
clubgop
- Posts: 7978
- Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:47 pm
Post
by clubgop » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:25 pm
Okeefenokee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:23 pm
Dan's hero,
SENATOR RON WYDEN DEMANDS “CONSEQUENCES” FOR PLATFORMS THAT DON’T “REMOVE PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES”
“I think what the Alex Jones case shows, we’re gonna really be looking at what the consequences are for just leaving common decency in the dust,” said Wyden.
“What I’m gonna be trying to do in my legislation is to really lay out what the consequences are when somebody who is a bad actor, somebody who really doesn’t meet the decency principles that reflect our values, if that bad actor blows by the bounds of common decency, I think you gotta have a way to make sure that stuff is taken down,” he added.
https://www.infowars.com/senator-ron-wy ... lex-jones/
Wow... for-real censorship.
This is what that looks like. Not facebook problems. This is the real deal.
And you love it, and you support it. You have been losing a lot of heroes lately, Why you think that is? They take one look at what they are inspiring and know that they are a useless husk of flesh and stare into the dark void and plunge into the abyss or is it the Russians?