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by C-Mag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:50 pm
Penner wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:In any case, we are about to see a limited preview of what happens after an EMP attack. Could be a lot to learn here.
I was thinking the same. Things are very, very bad there right now.
Yeah, things are really bad there. Not to mention that we are still finding out what the interior looks like since pretty much everything is still in the dark, roads need to be clear, running clean drinking water needs to be back up, etc....
I have a niece headed for the Virgin Islands tomorrow. Hopefully I will have something to share in a few weeks.
Being in a position of a refugee or relying on others for basic needs is not a good place to be
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by Penner » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:56 pm
C-Mag wrote:Penner wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I was thinking the same. Things are very, very bad there right now.
Yeah, things are really bad there. Not to mention that we are still finding out what the interior looks like since pretty much everything is still in the dark, roads need to be clear, running clean drinking water needs to be back up, etc....
I have a niece headed for the Virgin Islands tomorrow. Hopefully I will have something to share in a few weeks.
Being in a position of a refugee or relying on others for basic needs is not a good place to be
At this point Puetro Rico needs our help because of a) they are American citizens, legally speaking (made by the Jones–Shafroth Act of 1917). So, forgetting them is like forgetting a small state that is desperate for relief aid and b) it's bad really bad down in Puerto Rico. There is really no exaggeration on the level of disaster that Maria affected the island. Those people need our help and there is no denying that.
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by C-Mag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:03 pm
Penner wrote:
At this point Puetro Rico needs our help because of a) they are American citizens, legally speaking (made by the Jones–Shafroth Act of 1917). So, forgetting them is like forgetting a small state that is desperate for relief aid and b) it's bad really bad down in Puerto Rico. There is really no exaggeration on the level of disaster that Maria affected the island. Those people need our help and there is no denying that.
No Arguments from me. As I said earlier, I'm amazed that we are able to logistically supply what we have thus far. The bottleneck right now is on PR. Transport from the port inland.
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by Penner » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:11 pm
C-Mag wrote:Penner wrote:
At this point Puetro Rico needs our help because of a) they are American citizens, legally speaking (made by the Jones–Shafroth Act of 1917). So, forgetting them is like forgetting a small state that is desperate for relief aid and b) it's bad really bad down in Puerto Rico. There is really no exaggeration on the level of disaster that Maria affected the island. Those people need our help and there is no denying that.
No Arguments from me. As I said earlier, I'm amazed that we are able to logistically supply what we have thus far. The bottleneck right now is on PR. Transport from the port inland.
I am going to have to ask this but where is FEMA in all of this mess?
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by MilSpecs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:23 pm
C-Mag wrote:Penner wrote:
At this point Puetro Rico needs our help because of a) they are American citizens, legally speaking (made by the Jones–Shafroth Act of 1917). So, forgetting them is like forgetting a small state that is desperate for relief aid and b) it's bad really bad down in Puerto Rico. There is really no exaggeration on the level of disaster that Maria affected the island. Those people need our help and there is no denying that.
No Arguments from me. As I said earlier, I'm amazed that we are able to logistically supply what we have thus far. The bottleneck right now is on PR. Transport from the port inland.
Agreed with both of you. Their infrastructure is in hellish shape from what I heard (guy I work with is frantic about his children, who he hasn't been able to get through to, nor they to him). Everything is down, scariest being the water and power. The hospital generators aren't going to last forever. I heard they're airlifting the neonates out in one hospital but they're going to have to move many more. I have to ask my husband if he'll have to go there to deal with the power situation.
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by Okeefenokee » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:28 pm
Penner wrote:C-Mag wrote:Penner wrote:
At this point Puetro Rico needs our help because of a) they are American citizens, legally speaking (made by the Jones–Shafroth Act of 1917). So, forgetting them is like forgetting a small state that is desperate for relief aid and b) it's bad really bad down in Puerto Rico. There is really no exaggeration on the level of disaster that Maria affected the island. Those people need our help and there is no denying that.
No Arguments from me. As I said earlier, I'm amazed that we are able to logistically supply what we have thus far. The bottleneck right now is on PR. Transport from the port inland.
I am going to have to ask this but where is FEMA in all of this mess?
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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by C-Mag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:48 pm
Puerto Rican born and raised, Colonel Michael A. Valle (”Torch”), Commander, 101st Air and Space Operations Group, and Director of the Joint Air Component Coordination Element, 1st Air Force, responsible for Hurricane Maria relief efforts, has the following comment:
…They have the generators, water, food, medicine, and fuel on the ground, yet the supplies are not moving across the island as quickly as they’re needed.
“It’s a lack of drivers for the transport trucks, the 18 wheelers. Supplies we have. Trucks we have. There are ships full of supplies, backed up in the ports, waiting to have a vehicle to unload into. However, only 20% of the truck drivers show up to work.
A local reporter, reports
The reporter CONFIRMS that the truck drivers are refusing to work in order to get revenge on the governor.
Rodriguez says that the governor’s policies have impacted truckers, so now truckers will show the country THEIR OWN suffering.
The reporters says, “But all this stuff is in the past. In the present, it’s an emergency.”
Rodriguez guy says that the country can now experience what the truckers experience due to the governor’s policies.
Rodriquez says the truckers are not responsible for helping the country. That’s the governor’s job.
Three weeks earlier, nobody cared about the plight of the truckers, so now the truckers don’t care about the country.
This is all the governor’s fault, Rodriguez says. He passed a law, and now he has to live with it.
The governor didn’t understand the suffering of the working man, so now the truckers will show the country what suffering is.
Since the country doesn’t care about truckers, the truckers won’t help.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -leverage/
A different take
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us- ... c468060dee
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by Penner » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:53 pm
The Teamsters union and the AFL-CIO, a federation of more than 50 unions, are working together to recruit truckers to travel to Puerto Rico and help distribute a stockpile of relief supplies
Thousands of shipping containers full of food, water, and medicines were sitting unused at Puerto Rico's Port of San Juan.
Relief workers haven't been able to distribute the goods, in part because only about 20% of Puerto Rico's truck drivers have reported back to work since Hurricane Maria swept through, according to a representative for Puerto Rican Gov. Ricardo Rosselló.
On top of that, Puerto Rico has a shortage of diesel fuel, which is needed to power the semi-trucks. Downed power lines and debris still litter roadways, blocking routes. Even contacting local drivers is an issue because cell service blackouts still cover the majority of the island.
Teamsters spokesman Galen Munro told CNN that the union hopes to get more drivers on the ground next week.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/30/news/te ... index.html
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by Okeefenokee » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:56 pm
Penner wrote:The Teamsters union and the AFL-CIO, a federation of more than 50 unions, are working together to recruit truckers to travel to Puerto Rico and help distribute a stockpile of relief supplies
Thousands of shipping containers full of food, water, and medicines were sitting unused at Puerto Rico's Port of San Juan.
Relief workers haven't been able to distribute the goods, in part because only about 20% of Puerto Rico's truck drivers have reported back to work since Hurricane Maria swept through, according to a representative for Puerto Rican Gov. Ricardo Rosselló.
On top of that, Puerto Rico has a shortage of diesel fuel, which is needed to power the semi-trucks. Downed power lines and debris still litter roadways, blocking routes. Even contacting local drivers is an issue because cell service blackouts still cover the majority of the island.
Teamsters spokesman Galen Munro told CNN that the union hopes to get more drivers on the ground next week.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/30/news/te ... index.html
I bet Trump's responsible for this.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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by C-Mag » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:58 pm
I added the Huffpo link above.
Probably varying takes on what is actually happening. Like any dramatic event, different takes
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