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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:49 pm

Smitty knows this answer I saw him talk in depth about sub tactics on the last forum. I think we have sub killers and nuke launchers that do two different jobs.

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Post by heydaralon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:55 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Smitty knows this answer I saw him talk in depth about sub tactics on the last forum. I think we have sub killers and nuke launchers that do two different jobs.
I read an article years ago where a British and French sub were both doing maneuvers in the English Channel and they crashed into eachother. I think they both had nukes on board too. Yikes.


I didn't realize that we could track things underwater that well. I guess the Hunt for Red October couldn't happen anymore.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:59 pm

The bulk of the spending needs to shift back to the Army and a little more to the Air Force. The navy is killing us.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:59 pm

I wasn't even aware of the satellite aspect but according to what I've seen posted elsewhere we prettt much track then 24/7. Hence no more HFRO lately. Norway gets unspotted submarine scares from time to time in the media but I think it's just scare hype.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:00 pm

Sweden makes a little sub that we definitely cannot track.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:01 pm

I believe this. I'm sure they aren't the only one now that I think of it. I think the cartel uses small subs too.

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Post by DBTrek » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:03 pm

Probably don't need to track a little sub.
Unless it has a little nuke.
On a little missile.
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Post by heydaralon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The bulk of the spending needs to shift back to the Army and a little more to the Air Force. The navy is killing us.
What is your reasoning behind this? Also, when you served, what branch of the military were you in?
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:10 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The bulk of the spending needs to shift back to the Army and a little more to the Air Force. The navy is killing us.
What is your reasoning behind this?

That most of what we dump into the USN is an utter waste.

Granted, a lot of of the same problems exist in all the branches, especially the USAF.

But looking at a world war three conflict.. the Navy is a joke. The carrier groups will be sunk. That's a lot of capital that could have gone into building a better army.

The Air Force needs a major shakeup. The original plan was global power, global reach. They need to return to that. I'd scrap the F-35 program forthwith. Tell Lockmart to start designing new F-22 models with the kinds of avionics packages they put on the F-35.

I'd go to Northrup Grumman in secret and tell them straight out, I don't like the idea of the current generation of aircraft. I want aircraft we launch from CONUS that can achieve suborbital flight, and strike anywhere on Earth. There's no need for a carrier group when you have that. They can even launch kinetic rods up there and not get anywhere near the range at which they can be shot down.

The army needs it's own air assets for CAS. Give them the A-10 instead of retiring the fucking thing. Then start a project for a newer version of it. I am not an army guy, so I don't know what they really need on the ground, but I would start by talking to commanders at the battalion level.

I'd retire almost everybody you see in the Pentagon overnight.


Right now, the purpose of the MIC is to keep the tax dollars flowing. The purpose of the MIC should be to win wars, and win wars we don't necessarily get to choose.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:13 pm

The army is only for social experiments now.