The Left Does not Reason

[C-Mag]

The Constitution never mentions God, you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence, which is NOT a legal document. Just because some dead guy wrote something does not make it so. I'd kick ol' Jefferson's or Madison's ass in a debate, even though I think those guys were awesome.

You are correct, doesn't change the intent.

[TheReal_ND]

Let's hear the intent dude. You sold my son down the river with your lax stance on immigration so what the fuck was the intent old timer?

[TheReal_ND]

Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination

You don't know what you are talking about.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.jta.org/ ... orians/amp

WASHINGTON (JTA) — “Five million non-Jews died in the Holocaust.”

It’s a statement that shows up regularly in declarations about the Nazi era. It was implied in a Facebook post by the Israel Defense Forces’ spokesperson’s unit last week marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. And it was asserted in an article shared by the Trump White House in defense of its controversial Holocaust statement the same day omitting references to the 6 million Jewish victims.

It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis.

Indeed, say those close to the late Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, its progenitor, it is a number that was intended to increase sympathy for Jewish suffering but which now is more often used to obscure it.

Reposting. I saw you kicking around hippy faggot. I want to see the look on your face when the lies come crashing down around your faggot narrative.

[BjornP]

Only individual initiative can achieve success. Welfare only brings despondency.

Only if your welfare state does not expect anything of its citizens.

Only if local government don't really care to or believe it is possible to incentivize people to work.

Only if both government, citizens and welfare recipients agree that the citizen should have no have any duties, responsibiloies or demands put upon him or her in return for recieving welfare benefits.

Only if the welfare system has no means to keep welfare cheats in check, not simply via the threat of jail, but through an effective process of determining if those who claim illness, really are so ill they cannot work.

Only if you extend living entirely on welfare to people with people who have chronic illnesses, physical disabilities, etc. who could actually work a part time job and get by with only a partial welfare check.

All in all... just like the despondency you describe about your old home infects both the local government there as well as the citizens, it comes down to wether you honestly believe that you can fix a broken system or wether you believe that the only way to fix anything is to give up on it.

The community you described earlier has entirely given up. Local government has given up on solving anything, has given up on getting people to work, has given up on enforcing that only the deserving get welfare. Citizens have given up on seeking education or jobs training, finding jobs and generally improving their lives beyond what they currently have.

If you are actually one of those few people who due to health reasons cannot maintain a job, any job, for any number of work hours, it won't be the welfare that creates any sense of despondency you may feel. If you are one of the many who may have either no health issues, or health issues that only make you capable of a part time job, your sense of despondency comes from extremely low self-esteem and/or a life of people simply having given up on the thought of you ever accomplishing anything from day one.

A welfare state's efforts, at the local or rather individual level, through the efforts of dedicated social workers intent on bringing people out of dependancy, are the key to getting these people into a mindset where they actually believe in themselves, rather than seeing themselves as victims or dead fish, just riding along with the current. That's how you promote the general welfare, what a welfare state is supposed to be about, and limit the number of people being on welfare.

[TheReal_ND]

That only works in a homogeneous white society Bjorn. I'm sorry to break it to you.

[BjornP]

Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination

You don't know what you are talking about.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.jta.org/ ... orians/amp

How doees that story discounts the fact that the Nazis didn't exclusively kill Jews or even that non-Jews possibly outnumber the amount of Jews killed?

[TheReal_ND]

Dude. You're really fucking retarded aren't you? This is in reference to the Holocaust which is what you made an issue over. Find me one fucking thing that makes Jews the minority in the holocoaster. Pro tip: you can't.

Like dude, you don't have a fucking clue how many Jews starved to death or were outright shot. Please show me how you have all these facts.

[BjornP]

That only works in a homogeneous white society Bjorn. I'm sorry to break it to you.

I seriously never understood that explanation. You can only have efficient government if you're alike? If that were true, your military would not function as well as it does. And if ethnic heterogenity was relative to government efficiency, your very ethnically diverse country would be Somalia...which coincidentally is more ethnically homogenous than some European countries (85% ethnic Somalis, 15% other).

And is there any harm in trying? Again and again, if you need to? If you fail to create a society where large groups of people don't feel that any attempts at improving their lot in life is an excercise in futility, it's not the goal that's hopeless, it's your strategy and approach that is. That's what despondency is: Hopelessness in the face of adversity.

[TheReal_ND]

I seriously never understood that explanation. You can only have efficient government if you're alike?

Yes. See Game Theory.

If that were true, your military would not function as well as it does

You have no comprehension of how our military works. Combat is usually white majority with some blacks. The rest do some sort of gangster shit on supply side you fucking snowflake.

And is there any harm in trying? Again and again, if you need to? If you fail to create a society where large groups of people don't feel that any attempts at improving their lot in life is an excercise in futility, it's not the goal that's hopeless, it's your strategy and approach that is. That's what despondency is: Hopelessness in the face of adversity

Idk what you are saying. If you want my country that my ancestors have been here for about six generations plus a little more, to give in to multicult then fuck you but I will do it.

One condition; I want my homeland to be for white people.

[BjornP]

Dude. You're really fucking retarded aren't you? This is in reference to the Holocaust which is what you made an issue over. Find me one fucking thing that makes Jews the minority in the holocoaster. Pro tip: you can't.

Like dude, you don't have a fucking clue how many Jews starved to death or were outright shot. Please show me how you have all these facts.

I didn't bring up the Holocaust anywhere, nor claimed that Jews were killed in lower numbers than others. That was jbird. Don't know where he gets that from.

And most would say that Jews were the primary victims in the Nazi genocides, especially given how we don't have accurate numbers for the Jews killed in various parts of occupied Soviet Russia, where most Jews would have been rounded up, gunned down and buried in fields or forests rather than catalogued, processed and systematically killed in camps.

I thought the more imporant part of jbird's post was the part about the Nazis not just killing Jews... which probably does add up to about 11 million or so deliberate killings of civilians, including own citizens, and I thought that was the part you primarily referred to.