LET'S BAN GUNS!

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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:17 am

The Conservative wrote:I still say that guns aren't the issue... it's people, which of course most people in Congress refuse to admit.
Ok, so how would you propose to 'fix people'?

People are the issue with pretty much everything that ails society, so what would you recommend?
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Post by apeman » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:21 am

NY Times out with an article this AM proposing to repeal the entire 2A, hunting not even addressed therein

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:23 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:I still say that guns aren't the issue... it's people, which of course most people in Congress refuse to admit.
Ok, so how would you propose to 'fix people'?

People are the issue with pretty much everything that ails society, so what would you recommend?

Mobile gas chambers and predictive sentencing. For example, a dude who spits gum in a urinal has demonstrated he lacks a conscience and it's only a matter of time before his anti-social behavior escalates to a mass shooting. Once caught, we could gas him on the spot and drop his remains off at whatever funeral establishment he marked on the form. Another example: most murderers are democrats. We could put all of those guys on a watch list and ban them from purchasing guns for public safety sake. If any of tthem are found with guns, then they have demonstrated that their destructive behavior will only escalate, and we can call the mobile gas truck service straight away.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:28 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:I still say that guns aren't the issue... it's people, which of course most people in Congress refuse to admit.
Ok, so how would you propose to 'fix people'?

People are the issue with pretty much everything that ails society, so what would you recommend?

Mobile gas chambers and predictive sentencing. For example, a dude who spits gum in a urinal has demonstrated he lacks a conscience and it's only a matter of time before his anti-social behavior escalates to a mass shooting. Once caught, we could gas him on the spot and drop his remains off at whatever funeral establishment he marked on the form. Another example: most murderers are democrats. We could put all of those guys on a watch list and ban them from purchasing guns for public safety sake. If any of tthem are found with guns, then they have demonstrated that their destructive behavior will only escalate, and we can call the mobile gas truck service straight away.
Ask a reasonable question, get 'mobile gas chambers'. MHF 2017, everybody.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:37 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:I still say that guns aren't the issue... it's people, which of course most people in Congress refuse to admit.
Ok, so how would you propose to 'fix people'?

People are the issue with pretty much everything that ails society, so what would you recommend?
Allow Asylums to come back, there are people on the street that shouldn't be. Also, you can't "fix" people... if they are that far gone, there is a reason they are like they are. This is where politics and bullshit come in, politicians blame the other side all the time instead of just ignoring it and moving forward with a bill.

We need to allow psychologist visits to be covered long term under the ACA. It's not, I know because I was denied after a few months of going to one dealing with my Papa's death, not having a good job and soon to have a son born with my wife which was a high-risk situation due to family issues. Such as in 22 weeks of pregnancy she had no cervix and was already dilated 3cm (and was until Peter was born)

It all came at me hard and was a lot for me to deal with, working 2nd or third shift sucked, but it was required to bring in money to make sure we had a roof over our heads, and my wife and baby healthy. There were days in a row I didn't eat because I wanted to make sure they did...

The point is that even if you go to a psychologist just to talk and keep sane, you shouldn't be penalized later, or cut off cold turkey for taking advantage of said services. It was $25/visit and I went twice a week. Without insurance, it would have been $200/visit.

We also need to keep a stronger eye on medications and people, instead of just prescribing them and putting these people out back into the wild, we need to make sure that the medications are working and no side effects are happening.

We also need to make sure that people that are going through rough times get the support they need, it shouldn't matter their wealth level, every person needs help one way or another some time in their lives. We are told that because a person has money, that all their problems are resolved, or that is how the government acts. In reality that is far from the truth.

I would love to see less gun violence, but if we want to solve it, try it first in Chicago... use it as a testing area, if you can bring Chicago back from what it is to what it was, then we have a successful program that could be used nationwide to resolve violence issues.

On a side note, you will never resolve all violence, so banning something won't solve the underlining issue.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:41 am

Ok then.. now reconcile this new, expensive health coverage with the OMG COMMUNIZUM hysteria over public healthcare. Because insurance companies do not seem keen to cover any sort of lifetime mental care.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:44 am

While we are talking about violating human rights and everything, why not just ban black males from owning guns, who are responsible for more than half the murders in this country and are only 7% of the population, and maybe anybody who supported Bernie Sanders (weird propensity for mass shootings demonstrated there)?

Another issue is that research has demonstrated a strong correlation between alcohol/drug abuse and violent behavior. Maybe we ought to ban people who have regularly smoked marijuana in the past ten years as well, and anybody who drinks more than the recommended limit?
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Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:44 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Ok then.. now reconcile this new, expensive health coverage with the OMG COMMUNIZUM hysteria over public healthcare. Because insurance companies do not seem keen to cover any sort of lifetime mental care.
The healthcare is cheaper doing it that way, than dealing with 500 injured and 58 dead...
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Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:44 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:While we are talking about violating human rights and everything, why not just ban black males from owning guns, who are responsible for more than half the murders in this country and are only 7% of the population, and maybe anybody who supported Bernie Sanders (weird propensity for mass shootings demonstrated there)?
Again, you are looking at a result, and not the reasoning behind it...
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:48 am

For instance, why not legalize weed like the drug addicts demand, but require that they get a license to purchase it. But getting the license gets you removed from voter registrations and blocks you from purchasing or owning firearms?

Just think of all the great things we can accomplish when we say fuck it and ignore the Constitution!