THE ERA OF TRUMP

[ssu]

I will believe it when the evidence to prove the assertion is presented to me.

Oh definately I agree with this: if someone provides evidence that it really was a 400 pound guy on bed with a Computer,

(Who knows, it could be this guy...)


Or the evidence that there a is huge conspiracy with the all the intelligence services and the FBI, who wanted to put Trump in a bad light with the totally fabricated idea that Russia has done something... and still go with it even if the election is over.

Yeah, hope they would give some evidence. I'm all open for it.

Have a guy like the Marine officer who was an actual weapons inspector in Iraq who before the Iraqi invasion said that there was no WMD program, that actually the WMD's were destroyed. Because in Washington, there's allways the leaks. And such vast conspiracy that so many services get behind...

[Speaker to Animals]

There exists no evidence to prove who did it. People pointing out it can be a 300 lbs dude living in a basement are saying it could just as easily be that, not that it necessarily is so.

This stuff is straight-up fake news. This is WaPo building a story on "anonymous sources". They could be making shit up for all I know. But let's say it's true, and "anonymous sources" in the CIA or NSA told WaPo it's the Russians without providing any evidence. That's still not a story where you can say it's the Russians. They did the exact same thing for the alleged Iraqi nuclear weapons program (wasn't true) and the alleged North Korean hack of Sony (wasn't true). They lied about not torturing people (they were torturing people). They lied about not illegally spying on Americans (they were caught red-handed with the Snowden leaks).

At the end of the day, I am simply not that much of an asshole to believe either the WaPo or "anonymous sources" in the CIA and NSA. Show me the evidence. These people have no credibility. Not a single one of them.

[Haumana]

There exists no evidence to prove who did it. People pointing out it can be a 300 lbs dude living in a basement are saying it could just as easily be that, not that it necessarily is so.

This stuff is straight-up fake news. This is WaPo building a story on "anonymous sources". They could be making shit up for all I know. But let's say it's true, and "anonymous sources" in the CIA or NSA told WaPo it's the Russians without providing any evidence. That's still not a story where you can say it's the Russians. They did the exact same thing for the alleged Iraqi nuclear weapons program (wasn't true) and the alleged North Korean hack of Sony (wasn't true). They lied about not torturing people (they were torturing people). They lied about not illegally spying on Americans (they were caught red-handed with the Snowden leaks).

At the end of the day, I am simply not that much of an asshole to believe either the WaPo or "anonymous sources" in the CIA and NSA. Show me the evidence. These people have no credibility. Not a single one of them.

^^This.

Washington Post’ Helped Give Us the Iraq War
In the months before the war, The Washington Post ran more than 140 stories on its front page promoting the war.

https://www.thenation.com/article/eleve ... -iraq-war/

[Montegriffo]

So, oil man as SOS is that draining the swamp or turning it into the Everglades. I can't decide.

Ah, mate of Putin, making more sense now. Got to keep that petro-dollar rolling.

[LVH2]

Even if it were true, all they did was post e-mails in which Clintonites were acting like the scumbags they are.

Leave it to the MSM to portray elites caught rigging an election as victims of election rigging.

[Dand]

You're right, my FBI statement went too far. I hadn't read that story yet and was basing it on what they said before that. There still is not a consensus on the situation though.

Yeah, hope they would give some evidence. I'm all open for it.

Have a guy like the Marine officer who was an actual weapons inspector in Iraq who before the Iraqi invasion said that there was no WMD program, that actually the WMD's were destroyed. Because in Washington, there's allways the leaks. And such vast conspiracy that so many services get behind...

Not sure if you're saying that ironically or not but I hope they'll give some evidence too if they have it.

Even if it were true, all they did was post e-mails in which Clintonites were acting like the scumbags they are.

Leave it to the MSM to portray elites caught rigging an election as victims of election rigging.

Exactly. The emails are real. This hubbub about the source distracts from the contents.

[kybkh]

The amount of propaganda being produced is tremendous.

For me to totally dismiss the CIA's assessment I have to create a believable narrative using my relative lack of knowledge which makes sense.

To make sense, the narrative must start with a "why".

Why would the CIA attempt to paint RU as a villain and RU/Trump as co-conspirators? Couple of believable answers...

1. To de-legitimize the president elect, so to weaken his ability to enact policy.

This sounds like a reasonable belief. Begs the question what policies the CIA are concerned with and why would they choose to begin a relationship with future POTUS on such a damaging note?

2. To attempt to upset the electoral college vote.

A tad crazier than the first unless they know enough about the chosen electors that they feel with the right "encouragement" enough electors could be flipped to make a difference. Possible I guess. I mean, I am sure there are quite of few Never Trump electors who would be easily identified. Makes more sense to me to take this all the way and attempt to get Trump tossed than put you organization at odds with POTUS on day 1.

3. Imagine if the "CIA" really only consist of Mike Morrell and his network of friends. You know, the ones who probably spent the last year picking out offices under the belief that HRC would win easily and Morrell was on track to be appointed head guy at the agency. Now they are mad and possibly scared of being posted in Siberia so they are attempting to undermine any structural changes to intel agencies Trump might suggest by creating a narrative that Trump just want's to limit the CIA's budget to XXX and give more to DHS because he loves Putin and is being vindictive.

Certainly the craziest, but to me it is most believable.

[Speaker to Animals]

I can't be the only one totally amused by lefties getting all "you can't question the veracity of the FBI claims" not one month after they were talking mad shit about "rogue FBI agents" trying to undermine the election.

[kybkh]

I can't be the only one totally amused by lefties getting all "you can't question the veracity of the FBI claims" not one month after they were talking mad shit about "rogue FBI agents" trying to undermine the election.

What's most amusing is that all these hippie Boomer Lefties are crying out to be saved by the CIA.

Cocaine to Rogaine dude...Cocaine to Rogaine.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Perhaps he misunderstood "Draining the Swamp" to mean 'Draining it into the White House' or something.. ?