Daniel Shaver shooting

[Fife]

That was 'policing' in 1980/81.

+1.

Who else in here has ever tailgated at a concert?

Or a wrestling show?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Also got pulled over once at 18 yo, was told multiple times that he “smelled weed”, and had my car searched. There wasn’t any, and I’d never smoked anything but cigarettes in that car.

Maybe they’ve always been like this, I don’t know. It’s disgusting.

[Smitty-48]

That was 'policing' in 1980/81.

Former Marine Arthur McDuffie would probably disagree, if the cops hadn't beat him to death that is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Miami_riots

Vietnam veteran Jose Campos would probably disagree too, if the cops hadn't drowned him in the bayou that is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of ... pos_Torres

Larry Edwards, 19, unarmed, shot in the back while fleeing, after attempting to steal $39.

http://oldnews.aadl.org/node/200939

Mal Evans, roadie for the Beatles, shot by police when they mistook an air rifle for the real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal_Evans

Neville Johnson jr, shot for having a "suspicious bulge" in his pants and making a "quick movement" with his hands.

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/12/29/us/ri ... olice.html

Michael Stewart, arrested for spray painting graffiti, beaten to death in custody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Michael_Stewart

Sherri Rasmussen, murdered by LAPD detective Stephanie Lazarus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of ... _Rasmussen

[tue4t]

Also got pulled over once at 18 yo, was told multiple times that he “smelled weed”, and had my car searched. There wasn’t any, and I’d never smoked anything but cigarettes in that car.

Maybe they’ve always been like this, I don’t know. It’s disgusting.

Most of it has to do with (bad) policy and the culture that develops as a result. Weed is criminal, schedule 1. Police aren't paid to think about laws, they're paid to enforce them. They don't like criminals.

I've also heard through the grapevine that in some areas the officers effectively have soft quotas they need to fill. i.e. they are expected to make arrests or get called in and questioned about their job effectiveness etc.

Also, it is the devil's weed and all. They had to make sure you weren't possessed by Satan. You might have gone on and eaten a baby and no-one wants that on their conscience.

[Fife]

[LVH2]

Got pulled over with my buddies back in '98, for smoking dope by the train tracks. 3 cops pointing flashlights and pistols in our faces. That was my first realization that something is very, very wrong here.

Nowadays, they'd probably just shoot the car on sight.

Was pulled off at the side of the road, a new cul-de-sac dead end, paved road with a few cleared lots, one house partially (mostly) built at the beginning of the street and two other foundations poured. We were all under age (16-17), 3 of us with a case of beer and my friend in the passenger seat with a little weed in a baggie and the bowl in hand... Kinda chilly fall day with the windows rolled up, when a cop car races up to us, stops and the cop gets out and knocks on the window.

He didn't ask for ID, he told us to dump our open beers out the window and put the rest of the case in the trunk, took the little bit of weed and dumped it on the street, and then told us he was going to be back in 15 minutes and didn't want to find us there when he did, and drove off.

Not sure he actually came back since obviously we left and went elsewhere. Oh, and somehow he missed the flipped open album cover with a 1/2oz of weed on it in the back windshield. :p

That was 'policing' in 1980/81.

Obviously that cop didn't realize there was a one in ten million chance you would kill him and that his life is worth many times more than all of yours put together.

We can't ask cops to be brave risk takers like convenience store clerks, EMTs or anybody else.

This hood black guy just walked up to my wife and extended his hand to her purse. As a civilian I had the fortitude to wait and realize he was about to tell her she'd left it open. Had I been a cop I couldn't take a chance like that and would have had to at least beat him, as I felt uneasy for a second.

[Fife]

[SuburbanFarmer]

Got pulled over with my buddies back in '98, for smoking dope by the train tracks. 3 cops pointing flashlights and pistols in our faces. That was my first realization that something is very, very wrong here.

Nowadays, they'd probably just shoot the car on sight.

Was pulled off at the side of the road, a new cul-de-sac dead end, paved road with a few cleared lots, one house partially (mostly) built at the beginning of the street and two other foundations poured. We were all under age (16-17), 3 of us with a case of beer and my friend in the passenger seat with a little weed in a baggie and the bowl in hand... Kinda chilly fall day with the windows rolled up, when a cop car races up to us, stops and the cop gets out and knocks on the window.

He didn't ask for ID, he told us to dump our open beers out the window and put the rest of the case in the trunk, took the little bit of weed and dumped it on the street, and then told us he was going to be back in 15 minutes and didn't want to find us there when he did, and drove off.

Not sure he actually came back since obviously we left and went elsewhere. Oh, and somehow he missed the flipped open album cover with a 1/2oz of weed on it in the back windshield. :p

That was 'policing' in 1980/81.

Obviously that cop didn't realize there was a one in ten million chance you would kill him and that his life is worth many times more than all of yours put together.

We can't ask cops to be brave risk takers like convenience store clerks, EMTs or anybody else.

This hood black guy just walked up to my wife and extended his hand to her purse. As a civilian I had the fortitude to wait and realize he was about to tell her she'd left it open. Had I been a cop I couldn't take a chance like that and would have had to at least beat him, as I felt uneasy for a second.

Obviously you were traumatized. We need to create a safe space for you to project your feelings on everyone else.

[heydaralon]

Why don't you go live in Somalia? Without Government we wouldn't have roads. You are the only person that feels that way. You are a monday morning quarterback. These officers put their lives on the line everyday. Nice pro robber baron anti cop propaganda.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Clearly, the only options are between "police state" and "anarchy". One cannot expect to maintain a domestic police force without murdering and abusing the citizenry.