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Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:46 am

Finally, after 5+ days at the top of Google news, the Trump Jr. story drops down to a level right in there with a story about how great Michelle Obama was at the ESPYs. :roll: I can't take the MSM serious anymore. Well, I probably haven't for a few months now, but every day their propaganda is more transparent.

To this point I've read and heard a number of stories and opinions on the Trump Jr. story. My evaluation is that this is a big nothing. Wow, so Trump's son was interested in getting dirt on his dad's opponent. False reports on Trump are plastered all over media and none of the media ever cares if it's even true, but if Trump Jr is open to a meeting to get some actual dirt it's somehow a scandal because it came from Russia. Hypocritical MSM trying their hardest to prove the "OMGZ, Russia" narrative while covering for their pals by not reporting on the real scandals.

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Post by clubgop » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:46 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
jediuser598 wrote: The losing strategy was Hillary Clinton, a scumbag. Sanders would have had a much better chance, especially if his VP was Warren.

And going hard towards your base doesn't work? Look at what Trump did, said some of the most insane, hard right shit, and still won. This country wants to go full retard.
Liz Warren will be older in 2020 than HRC was when she ran. She will be less unlikable, but not loved by anyone outside of her hardcore base. Moot point because she won't get the nomination. The Dem party will turn 2020 into a reality show by running a celebrity against Trump.
I don't agree with you about that last part, doing something like that would require self awareness and they have not demonstrated one iota of it since 2009.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:53 am

PartyOf5 wrote:Finally, after 5+ days at the top of Google news, the Trump Jr. story drops down to a level right in there with a story about how great Michelle Obama was at the ESPYs. :roll: I can't take the MSM serious anymore. Well, I probably haven't for a few months now, but every day their propaganda is more transparent.

To this point I've read and heard a number of stories and opinions on the Trump Jr. story. My evaluation is that this is a big nothing. Wow, so Trump's son was interested in getting dirt on his dad's opponent. False reports on Trump are plastered all over media and none of the media ever cares if it's even true, but if Trump Jr is open to a meeting to get some actual dirt it's somehow a scandal because it came from Russia. Hypocritical MSM trying their hardest to prove the "OMGZ, Russia" narrative while covering for their pals by not reporting on the real scandals.
This is why they dropped it
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... with-trump

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Post by clubgop » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:03 am

jediuser598 wrote:
Man, what happened to you? You used to be a pretty cool guy, now you're not even capitalizing your sentences, nor are you putting forth real arguments, while also trying your best to hurt other forum members. Where's the old Okee? You've been around ND for too long.
jediuser598 wrote: The losing strategy was Hillary Clinton, a scumbag. Sanders would have had a much better chance, especially if his VP was Warren.

And going hard towards your base doesn't work? Look at what Trump did, said some of the most insane, hard right shit, and still won. This country wants to go full retard.
This is why they will continue to lose. The lack of self awareness is colossal. Look at this board, Okee used to be a centrist, DeO still is but is down right intolerant of lefty BS anymore, StA in another life was a severe leftist but they are the problem they all caught this disease which makes them immune to reason. You ever have any self doubt any self reflection that just once you are in the wrong and losing is your fault?

I mean DT hard right? He won PA, WI, and MI, states that have not gone rightward in decades but have now gone hard right because you say so? Two ships were tied together, the ties break and the ships begin to move apart. You scream at the other ship where are they going? Why have they drifted so far? Does it ever once enter you brain that they are not the ones moving? That it could be you? Maybe the problem is you? Nope? Booker/ Warren 2020 I guess. :roll:

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Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:09 am

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Post by Lemonade » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:25 am

I'm here late. Smitty killed page 34 and he is my spirit animal.

I'm still reading to catch up.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:26 am

For more cid posting go to latest Net Neutrality thread.

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Post by jediuser598 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:25 am

clubgop wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Man, what happened to you? You used to be a pretty cool guy, now you're not even capitalizing your sentences, nor are you putting forth real arguments, while also trying your best to hurt other forum members. Where's the old Okee? You've been around ND for too long.
jediuser598 wrote: The losing strategy was Hillary Clinton, a scumbag. Sanders would have had a much better chance, especially if his VP was Warren.

And going hard towards your base doesn't work? Look at what Trump did, said some of the most insane, hard right shit, and still won. This country wants to go full retard.
This is why they will continue to lose. The lack of self awareness is colossal. Look at this board, Okee used to be a centrist, DeO still is but is down right intolerant of lefty BS anymore, StA in another life was a severe leftist but they are the problem they all caught this disease which makes them immune to reason. You ever have any self doubt any self reflection that just once you are in the wrong and losing is your fault?

I mean DT hard right? He won PA, WI, and MI, states that have not gone rightward in decades but have now gone hard right because you say so? Two ships were tied together, the ties break and the ships begin to move apart. You scream at the other ship where are they going? Why have they drifted so far? Does it ever once enter you brain that they are not the ones moving? That it could be you? Maybe the problem is you? Nope? Booker/ Warren 2020 I guess. :roll:
That's some mighty projection you have there. Before Trump were you pro family values? Now you have a married man as the leader of your party who brags about sleeping married women, who says he is going to kill families as part of the war on terror, who wants to strip 2nd amendment rights without due process, who bombs Syria as an interventialist and is ok with gay marriage. And you say it is my ship that moved!

Or are you saying these were always Republican positions? Which, I mean, please do say these were always Republican positions. That would be hilarious.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:27 pm

ssu wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Mueller investigation; much ado about nothing, that's basically just an out, Mueller's not coming back with High Crimes & Misdemeanors, he's just there to give Congress political cover to climb down.

Meuller gives the all clear, carry on; done and done, GOP did their due dilligence, nothing to charge anybody with, moving on...

... anybody tries to bring it up in the future, they can just hold Mueller up as a shield, that's why they picked him, running against Mueller's reputation is a losers bet, Mueller is there to give the all clear, neutralizing this line of attack from the Democrats once and for all.
We will see later what comes out of it.

Anyway, many Trump haters have vouched for Mueller, noted how experienced his staff is and been very upbeat about him. So then it would be at least for them difficult to change the rhetoric. I've seen only a few articles that have been doubtfull about Mueller.

The only true risk is that Trump will fuck up himself so badly as only he can (and as his family can, as we have seen). Because the Russian side is a tough nut to crack and they don't sloppily discuss these things on emails and be so blissfully ignorant about security (as like uh, the DNC has been).

Yet I think that Mueller doesn't care a shit about the Republican/Democrat fight here, but likely is more focused on shielding the reputation of the FBI and the Intel Community. Even for Mueller to think about what would be politically expedient will get him neck deep into a pile of shit as happened with Comey. One's you go there, you are toast. Mueller's there representing the establishment which doesn't care so much if the dems or the GOPsters are in power.
Well I don't think it's the case that Bob Mueller doesn't play the game and is not a political animal, clearly he is, based on the widespread and egregious shenanigans going on during the Bush Admin, including at the FBI, and Bob Mueller doing jack shit about it, going along just to get along at the very least, active participant at worst.

As for Trump blowing himself up, I agree, that's the only risk for Trump, only Trump can bring himself down, any other parties trying to bring Trump down, is only going to cause Trump's supporters, and even people who are skeptical of Trump but open to the agenda articulated by him, to simply rally around him all the more and double down, not for Trump per se, but for what the electorate voted for, which is really what is in play here, it's not Trump, it's the will of the electorate v. the Washington insiders, and if the Washington insiders continue to try to waylay the election, I think that's going to backfire spectacularly.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:01 pm

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07 ... a-hacking/
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/885395248612085760

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

so this is why the assholes in the DNC didnt want to turn over their servers to the FBI for foresnic analysis to catch the hackers

its almost like, they were the criminals the entire time