Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[SuburbanFarmer]

How do you know mushrooms don't want to live? They seem to fight hard for life. Along with everything else that lives.

Anyway. Do not get between me and a juicy steak. There will be blood.

[TheReal_ND]

Ethics, people. ^^^

A situational guide to right and wrong.

Is it right to murder someone? Depends on the situation.

So, it's ethically right to murder the unborn and those in comas when we decide the situation grants it, but don't you eat that steak!

Typical amoral bullshit, as I predicted.

It's not immoral if it ensured the preservation of human genetics. We have that moral imperative upon us and very limited time. I refuse to make a case for genetically deficient humans that are a net drain. That is what the Left does.

[JohnDonne]

@ Okee, Lol you think there's a contradiction in what I'm saying? You think I don't factor in circumstance when I say meat eating without necessity is unethical?

[Okeefenokee]

Margaret Sanger is on the horn.

[JohnDonne]

I would make the case for deficient humans as long as they are not deficient in intrinsic value.

I'm all about personhood, I don't care what you are, if you have the ability to desire to live, you're golden.

[TheReal_ND]

I would make the case for deficient humans as long as they are not deficient in intrinsic value.

Everything is of intrinsic value as long as it fucks us off

[Okeefenokee]

@ Okee, Lol you think there's a contradiction in what I'm saying? You think I don't factor in circumstance when I say meat eating without necessity is unethical?

You already stated your rubric.

Killing the unborn is ethical because they can't demonstrate a desire to live.

Fuck off.

[JohnDonne]

Well, I am nothing if not a champion of creatures than can't speak for themselves, a fetus in my opinion need not demonstrate anything, simply having the causal structure at a certain level of development would suffice as a mandate to play it safe in my view. Without it though, where's the subjective ability? How does it morally differentiate from a rock? Human DNA? I throw my own DNA every time I brush my hair.

[JohnDonne]

Anyway, these are fascinating discussions but I must take a break and do something with my day.

[TheReal_ND]

Well, I am nothing if not a champion of creatures than can't speak for themselves, a fetus in my opinion need not demonstrate anything, simply having the causal structure at a certain level of development would suffice as a mandate to play it safe in my view. Without it though, where's the subjective ability? How does it morally differentiate from a rock? Human DNA? I throw my own DNA every time I brush my hair.

I understand as well. It's nothing to you because it represents a future you will never experience.

Why do you care about the future again? Chickens or something?