It's like Washington's obsession with the Middle East.
That's all Kennedy and Carter.
Kennedy's failure in Vietnam has to be undone somehow.
The Carter Doctrine to defend the Arabs and Persians from the Soviets is a zombie legacy project run amok.
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I mean, if you've watched this show since 1976, then you know how and where it started.
If you only joined us at some point in the 90s, then you might not be aware that the ME is just the Vietnam Domino Theory all over again repackaged by Jimmy Carter.
The Millennials always drink the "it's for oil" kool-aid.
But that's because they only joined us quite recently, they don't remember Vietnam.
If you only joined us at some point in the 90s, then you might not be aware that the ME is just the Vietnam Domino Theory all over again repackaged by Jimmy Carter.
The Millennials always drink the "it's for oil" kool-aid.
But that's because they only joined us quite recently, they don't remember Vietnam.
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Re: FlynnNN
Obama was RFK. Bobby Kennedy was just like Obama.
In fact Obama was just doing an impression of Bobby Kennedy from 1968.
RFK was the Obama of the Kennedy's.
In fact Obama was just doing an impression of Bobby Kennedy from 1968.
RFK was the Obama of the Kennedy's.
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Re: FlynnNN
Would have been seminal if RFK had become President in 68'.
Nixon couldn't even quit Vietnam, putting Bobby Kennedy in the White House would have meant doubling down.
RFK could never have pulled out of Vietnam and the Congress would never have cut funding to a Kennedy.
Nixon couldn't even quit Vietnam, putting Bobby Kennedy in the White House would have meant doubling down.
RFK could never have pulled out of Vietnam and the Congress would never have cut funding to a Kennedy.
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Re: FlynnNN
The Pentagon Papers is what the Democrats do.
Electing RFK would have been committing America to fighting his brother's enemies for another 20 years at least.
You still would have been bombing North Vietnam and propping Saigon up, right into the 1980's.
When the Democrats say they are pulling out of Vietnam, that's when you know you're staying forever.
Electing RFK would have been committing America to fighting his brother's enemies for another 20 years at least.
You still would have been bombing North Vietnam and propping Saigon up, right into the 1980's.
When the Democrats say they are pulling out of Vietnam, that's when you know you're staying forever.
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Re: FlynnNN
I actually think electing RFK could have resulted in a Third World War.
You put the Kennedy's in charge, you are asking for escalation.
The Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam was not an accident.
The Kennedy's couldn't stop themselves, RFK would have done the opposite of what Nixon did.
Nixon wanted to offset his hard image by being the Great Statesman and making peace.
RFK would have been JFK 2.0 Have to be tough on something, RFK cannot go to China.
Nixon went to Moscow and Beijing, it was Nixon who deescalated the Cold War. Nobody else.
It was Nixon's plan, nobody else was going to do it.
RFK would have been in the same box his brother and LBJ were in.
The Democrats cannot be seen to be cutting and running.
Only Nixon Can Go To China.
The Democrats have to take it all the way to the Missile Crisis every time.
Obama did it too.
BMD with INF; Missiles in Romania. Same as Missiles in Turkey was for JFK, but even closer to Moscow now.
You put the Kennedy's in charge, you are asking for escalation.
The Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam was not an accident.
The Kennedy's couldn't stop themselves, RFK would have done the opposite of what Nixon did.
Nixon wanted to offset his hard image by being the Great Statesman and making peace.
RFK would have been JFK 2.0 Have to be tough on something, RFK cannot go to China.
Nixon went to Moscow and Beijing, it was Nixon who deescalated the Cold War. Nobody else.
It was Nixon's plan, nobody else was going to do it.
RFK would have been in the same box his brother and LBJ were in.
The Democrats cannot be seen to be cutting and running.
Only Nixon Can Go To China.
The Democrats have to take it all the way to the Missile Crisis every time.
Obama did it too.
BMD with INF; Missiles in Romania. Same as Missiles in Turkey was for JFK, but even closer to Moscow now.
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Re: FlynnNN
This thing that Obama has put in Romania, right in the Russians kitchen; it's a doomsday weapon.
Aegis Ashore serves only one purpose.
To enable a theater thermonuclear preemptive first strike.
It's not defensive, it's totally offensive.
This is what has the Russians escalating.
They need to keep up in the arms race which Obama has restarted.
Aegis Ashore serves only one purpose.
To enable a theater thermonuclear preemptive first strike.
It's not defensive, it's totally offensive.
This is what has the Russians escalating.
They need to keep up in the arms race which Obama has restarted.
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Re: FlynnNN
On this trajectory, the Russians will keep on counter escalating.
They have no choice, they have to try to maintain the Balance of Terror.
So far Aegis Ashore is only going into Romania and Poland, which is hot enough in of itself.
But it won't stop there.
Aegis Ashore will spread.
Norway, Japan, Korea, etcetera, America will start to surround the Russians with Aegis Ashore.
Then we will see how hot things can actually get.
Because in the face of BMD with INF, the Russians will have to keep upping their ante to compensate.
They have no choice, they have to try to maintain the Balance of Terror.
So far Aegis Ashore is only going into Romania and Poland, which is hot enough in of itself.
But it won't stop there.
Aegis Ashore will spread.
Norway, Japan, Korea, etcetera, America will start to surround the Russians with Aegis Ashore.
Then we will see how hot things can actually get.
Because in the face of BMD with INF, the Russians will have to keep upping their ante to compensate.
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Re: FlynnNN
And don't forget THAAD's
THAAD's is the other shoe to drop.
Because THAAD's is the mobile land based system which complements Aegis Afloat and Ashore.
THAAD's can go into places which will make things white hot.
Because THAAD's can go into the Near Abroad itself, like in Ukraine, Georgia, and Central Asia.
Aegis Afloat.
Aegis Ashore.
THAADS.
GMD.
Nuclear Tomahawk.
Trident II depressed trajectory profile.
Buckle up.
It's like 1983 on steroids, because at least there was no BMD in play in 1983.
THAAD's is the other shoe to drop.
Because THAAD's is the mobile land based system which complements Aegis Afloat and Ashore.
THAAD's can go into places which will make things white hot.
Because THAAD's can go into the Near Abroad itself, like in Ukraine, Georgia, and Central Asia.
Aegis Afloat.
Aegis Ashore.
THAADS.
GMD.
Nuclear Tomahawk.
Trident II depressed trajectory profile.
Buckle up.
It's like 1983 on steroids, because at least there was no BMD in play in 1983.
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