World Cup thread - thanks Brexit...

[Kath]

I don't disagree with anything you've said there but Smitty clearly broke the first one without sanction.

No. Smitty never touched threads that Martin posted in Martin's area. Smitty knew to not mess with Martin. Capps isn't as smart. Capps had a public meltdown and went loony toons. There was a 2-3 hour period where Martin & I were running from thread to thread deleting all the shit Capps was spewing directly at Martin.

[Montegriffo]

I don't disagree with anything you've said there but Smitty clearly broke the first one without sanction.

No. Smitty never touched threads that Martin posted in Martin's area. Smitty knew to not mess with Martin. Capps isn't as smart. Capps had a public meltdown and went loony toons. There was a 2-3 hour period where Martin & I were running from thread to thread deleting all the shit Capps was spewing directly at Martin.

Maybe so but I'd find it hard to defend the statement ''Smitty didn't spam threads''

[Kath]

Maybe so but I'd find it hard to defend the statement ''Smitty didn't spam threads''

Smitty didn't spam MARTIN's threads. Big diff. Martin was completely ignoring the issue until Capps attacked Martin.

[Montegriffo]

I agree, I'm not defending Capps behaviour only the apparent singling out of him.
I'm just putting forward his argument as presented to me by him as he is scared to put it himself for fear of being permanently banned and losing even PM contact with his freinds on the site.
This is part of the recent discussion I had with him. I have clearly misrepresented your views on the matter for which I apologise but it was something you said previously on the matter during your spat with Smitty which led me to think that. You did say you felt Capps was being sanctioned for something whilst Martin made exceptions for Smitty.
I also made assumptions on behalf of the board which I cannot back up but in my defence I did so to encourage Capps to enter into an open discussion on the matter rather than sulking in the background and resorting to PMs to make his point.

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:33 am

IF YOU SPAM, YOU WILL BE BANNED.
IF YOU POST DICK PICS, YOU WILL BE BANNED.
IF YOU DICK AROUND IN MY SHIT, YOU WILL BE BANNED.
IF YOU DOX MY FAMILY, YOU WILL BE BANNED.
IF YOU BECOME A STALKER, YOU WILL BE BANNED.

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:08 am
Well I don't have a problem with any of those rules but you are right that they should apply across the board and not only apply to you.
Okee and Clubgop certainly fall foul of the last one when it comes to Grumpy and myself.

I'm sure if you argued your point openly on the forum you would get almost unanimous support for your position and Martin would have to address it.
Kath has openly defended you on this and I would do the same and as the main protagonists in the hockey wars our support should mean something.
The trouble with using PMs only is that Martin can easily ignore your complaints.
You could stick to your principles on not posting by only taking part in a thread about this and not in any other thread.
I doubt there is a single person here who does not want you to return, help us shame Martin into backing down on this.

StCapps wrote:
If Martin won't back down on his own accord, then his forum isn't worth posting in from my perspective, and besides if I call him out, that could qualify as "if you dick around in my shit, you will be banned" or "if you become a stalker, you will be banned", and then I won't even be able to PM anyone anymore.

If a group of you want to go to bat for a set of uniform forum rules that apply to all posters, are properly clarified so that it's very clear where the line is, and those rules aren't arbitrarily and selectively imposed by moderators or ownership on a whim, especially when they impose rules behind the scenes to avoid public scrutiny, and you can shame Martin into offering an acceptable peace treaty, that could possibly lead to my return.

As for Smitty's return, he's kind of bored with the forum, and without a source he trusts telling him that it's safe to return despite the previous behind the scenes shenanigans and power tripping mods, plus content that compels him to post on top of that, I don't think he'll be back anytime soon.

[Kath]

Dude - you are spamming your own world cup thread and you are letting Capps help. Irony. It's no skin off my nose if Capps won't post. I won't engage with him about public threads via PM, though.

[Montegriffo]

Dude - you are spamming your own world cup thread and you are letting Capps help. Irony. It's no skin off my nose if Capps won't post. I won't engage with him about public threads via PM, though.

Not only that, I made my intention clear right at the start.

There we go.
That should get Smitty and Capps posting again.

Not really off topic spamming if you think about it, more like bait.
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=3708

Its not like I expected any meaningful discussion about the World Cup from a bunch of people who couldn't even explain the offside rule.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I don't disagree with anything you've said there but Smitty clearly broke the first one without sanction.
Well actually I do disagree with concern to Grumps, having been a victim of Clubby's stalking until recently I recognise the signs.

I wouldn't call it "stalking", and I wouldn't really want any rules enforced against them. It's just sad trolling behavior. I think anyone reading it should be able to see what's going on, and it's certainly not going to affect me personally.

If they cross the line into tracking me down IRL, or posting my address on here, then it would be a problem.

[Montegriffo]

I don't disagree with anything you've said there but Smitty clearly broke the first one without sanction.
Well actually I do disagree with concern to Grumps, having been a victim of Clubby's stalking until recently I recognise the signs.

I wouldn't call it "stalking", and I wouldn't really want any rules enforced against them. It's just sad trolling behavior. I think anyone reading it should be able to see what's going on, and it's certainly not going to affect me personally.

If they cross the line into tracking me down IRL, or posting my address on here, then it would be a problem.

OK, intentionally singling one person out for repeated trolling then (sounds a bit like stalking to me).
The definition of stalking does state that the victim needs to feel intimidated or in danger of physical harm so you are right.
Clubby is going to have a hard time saying ''are you ever fucking right about anything you say'' on this one.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I don't disagree with anything you've said there but Smitty clearly broke the first one without sanction.
Well actually I do disagree with concern to Grumps, having been a victim of Clubby's stalking until recently I recognise the signs.

I wouldn't call it "stalking", and I wouldn't really want any rules enforced against them. It's just sad trolling behavior. I think anyone reading it should be able to see what's going on, and it's certainly not going to affect me personally.

If they cross the line into tracking me down IRL, or posting my address on here, then it would be a problem.

OK, intentionally singling one person out for repeated trolling then (sounds a bit like stalking to me).
The definition of stalking does state that the victim needs to feel intimidated or in danger of physical harm so you are right.
Clubby is going to have a hard time saying ''are you ever fucking right about anything you say'' on this one.

It would be more irritating, if he ever posted anything useful, or I respected his opinion whatsoever.

Trolls gonna troll.

[Hastur]

Monte is just following the new British tradition of being grossly offended on someone else’s behalf.